Re: Cheaper Servers? -- MIDRANGE-L

Well said, with the LPAR you can't go wrong with the OS400!

Dare

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shields, Ken" <kenshields@ppg.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers?


> I think the KEY here is interoperability, something like LPAR of Linux on
the /400.
> The user could still maintain Windoze if they chose to do so.
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dare @ Work [mailto:oludare@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:00 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers?
>
>
> I think a portable OS400 can give Windoze a ride for its money.  Not to
> mention the stability of OS400 amongst many of its superior features.
Don't
> quote me but we could break the monopoly of Microsoft on OS.
>
> Dare
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr Syd Nicholson" <sydnic@ccs400.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers?
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Put me on the purchase list too.
> >
> > A valuable asset to any sales team. Mobile software demonstrations at
> > any customer workplace. Opportunities to show OS/400 capababilities on
> > any potial customer site. Oportunites to get iSeries systems into the
> > smallest of potential customers, most of which perceive Big Blue as
> > being too remote, complicated, and expensive.
> >
> > A valuable asset to any contractor doing development for different
> > clients. Mobile software development on a real iSeries!! I look forward
> > to it.
> >
> > Syd Nicholson
> > Castlehill Computer Services Ltd.
> >
> >
> > Shields, Ken wrote:
> >
> > >Put me on the purchase list...
> > >Ken
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Robin Sapiro (Rogers) [mailto:robin.sapiro@rogers.com]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:31 PM
> > >To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > >Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers?
> > >
> > >
> > >David,
> > >
> > >How about this as a survey subject.
> > >
> > >Would you buy a laptop iSeries.
> > >In what price range.
> > >What would you do with it
> > >
> > >Maybe IBM would like some overwhelming feedback on this subject (OK so
I
> am
> > >dreaming - but still an interesting survey question)
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jeff Bull" <Jeff.Bull@ITM-group.co.uk>
> > >To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:47 AM
> > >Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers?
> > >
> > >
> > >>... I never mentioned Intel processors, I used the term 'laptop',
> perhaps
> > >>
> > >I
> > >
> > >>could have used the term 'portable'.
> > >>
> > >>At a previous employer the sales/marketing team 'lugged' a model 150
> > >>
> > >around
> > >
> > >>the world (!!!) to demonstrate the business applications they had for
> > >>
> > >sale.
> > >
> > >>The prospects liked to see applications running native, not over a
comms
> > >>link.  The poor little 150 was bashed to bits many times by the
airline
> > >>baggage handlers, even though it was reasonably protected in a custom
> made
> > >>case.
> > >>
> > >>A portable AS/400 is what is needed.  The electronic guts of a 150/170
> > >>
> > >style
> > >
> > >>system could surely be repackaged, perhaps further miniaturised, and
> made
> > >>truly portable, e.g. carried as airline hand-baggage.  I bet the
> component
> > >>technology already exists, the casing and marketing ... well IBM ?
> > >>
> > >>Jeff Bull
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Adam Lang [mailto:aalang@rutgersinsurance.com]
> > >>Sent: 09 April 2002 16:25
> > >>To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > >>Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Nope.  Doubt it would work.  Part of AS/400 (and Mac for that point
too)
> > >>robustness is the fact of a limited set of hardware to support.
> > >>
> > >>If you have IBM developing OS/400 for Intel AND the millions of
hardware
> > >>possible, it will tank.
> > >>
> > >>Adam Lang
> > >>Systems Engineer
> > >>Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
> > >>http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: "Andy Nolen-Parkhouse" <aparkhouse@attbi.com>
> > >>To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> > >>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:20 AM
> > >>Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Buck,
> > >>>
> > >>>I would differentiate between an entry level server and a personal
> > >>>version of OS/400.  One of the reasons that IBM gives for not pushing
> > >>>iSeries solutions in their consulting business is that they have
> > >>>difficulty recruiting recent college graduates with OS/400
experience.
> > >>>One of the reasons many managers would not consider an iSeries is
that
> > >>>they've never used one.  If a very-low-cost personal version of the
> > >>>system was available for an Intel platform, perhaps with a client
limit
> > >>>of one, then college students could use the system and gain the
> > >>>familiarity that none of them have.
> > >>>
> > >>>I can think of no other way to make OS/400 ubiquitous, given the
> > >>>circumstances of the marketplace.
> > >>>
> > >>>Andy Nolen-Parkhouse
> > >>>
> > >>>>John Carr wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>If we share the same hardware, and IBM OWNS  OS/400 and AIX
> > >>>>>and they are putting relatively the same R&D money into both,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Should the iSeries cost the same as a pSeries  ( +/-   a few $)  ??
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>I briefly spoke with Dr Soltis at the recent Northeast IBM
Conference.
> > >>>>
> > >>>I
> > >>>
> > >>>>asked him to put OS/400 on a laptop to distribute to universities.
He
> > >>>>told
> > >>>>me that he floated the idea and nobody was interested, including
> > >>>>
> > >>>COMMON.
> > >>>
> > >>>>Apparently, if IBM can't find demand, they're disinclined to fire up
a
> > >>>>production line to create dumpster-filler.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>This may be an opportunity for us to tell Rochester that we're
> > >>>>
> > >>>interested
> > >>>
> > >>>>in
> > >>>>a low-cost OS/400.
> > >>>>  --buck
> > >>>>
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