RE: Cheaper Servers? -- MIDRANGE-L

I think the KEY here is interoperability, something like LPAR of Linux on the 
/400.
The user could still maintain Windoze if they chose to do so.
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Dare @ Work [mailto:oludare@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:00 AM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers?


I think a portable OS400 can give Windoze a ride for its money.  Not to
mention the stability of OS400 amongst many of its superior features.  Don't
quote me but we could break the monopoly of Microsoft on OS.

Dare

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr Syd Nicholson" <sydnic@ccs400.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers?


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> Put me on the purchase list too.
>
> A valuable asset to any sales team. Mobile software demonstrations at
> any customer workplace. Opportunities to show OS/400 capababilities on
> any potial customer site. Oportunites to get iSeries systems into the
> smallest of potential customers, most of which perceive Big Blue as
> being too remote, complicated, and expensive.
>
> A valuable asset to any contractor doing development for different
> clients. Mobile software development on a real iSeries!! I look forward
> to it.
>
> Syd Nicholson
> Castlehill Computer Services Ltd.
>
>
> Shields, Ken wrote:
>
> >Put me on the purchase list...
> >Ken
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Robin Sapiro (Rogers) [mailto:robin.sapiro@rogers.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:31 PM
> >To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> >Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers?
> >
> >
> >David,
> >
> >How about this as a survey subject.
> >
> >Would you buy a laptop iSeries.
> >In what price range.
> >What would you do with it
> >
> >Maybe IBM would like some overwhelming feedback on this subject (OK so I
am
> >dreaming - but still an interesting survey question)
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jeff Bull" <Jeff.Bull@ITM-group.co.uk>
> >To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:47 AM
> >Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers?
> >
> >
> >>... I never mentioned Intel processors, I used the term 'laptop',
perhaps
> >>
> >I
> >
> >>could have used the term 'portable'.
> >>
> >>At a previous employer the sales/marketing team 'lugged' a model 150
> >>
> >around
> >
> >>the world (!!!) to demonstrate the business applications they had for
> >>
> >sale.
> >
> >>The prospects liked to see applications running native, not over a comms
> >>link.  The poor little 150 was bashed to bits many times by the airline
> >>baggage handlers, even though it was reasonably protected in a custom
made
> >>case.
> >>
> >>A portable AS/400 is what is needed.  The electronic guts of a 150/170
> >>
> >style
> >
> >>system could surely be repackaged, perhaps further miniaturised, and
made
> >>truly portable, e.g. carried as airline hand-baggage.  I bet the
component
> >>technology already exists, the casing and marketing ... well IBM ?
> >>
> >>Jeff Bull
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Adam Lang [mailto:aalang@rutgersinsurance.com]
> >>Sent: 09 April 2002 16:25
> >>To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> >>Subject: Re: Cheaper Servers?
> >>
> >>
> >>Nope.  Doubt it would work.  Part of AS/400 (and Mac for that point too)
> >>robustness is the fact of a limited set of hardware to support.
> >>
> >>If you have IBM developing OS/400 for Intel AND the millions of hardware
> >>possible, it will tank.
> >>
> >>Adam Lang
> >>Systems Engineer
> >>Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
> >>http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Andy Nolen-Parkhouse" <aparkhouse@attbi.com>
> >>To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:20 AM
> >>Subject: RE: Cheaper Servers?
> >>
> >>
> >>>Buck,
> >>>
> >>>I would differentiate between an entry level server and a personal
> >>>version of OS/400.  One of the reasons that IBM gives for not pushing
> >>>iSeries solutions in their consulting business is that they have
> >>>difficulty recruiting recent college graduates with OS/400 experience.
> >>>One of the reasons many managers would not consider an iSeries is that
> >>>they've never used one.  If a very-low-cost personal version of the
> >>>system was available for an Intel platform, perhaps with a client limit
> >>>of one, then college students could use the system and gain the
> >>>familiarity that none of them have.
> >>>
> >>>I can think of no other way to make OS/400 ubiquitous, given the
> >>>circumstances of the marketplace.
> >>>
> >>>Andy Nolen-Parkhouse
> >>>
> >>>>John Carr wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>If we share the same hardware, and IBM OWNS  OS/400 and AIX
> >>>>>and they are putting relatively the same R&D money into both,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Should the iSeries cost the same as a pSeries  ( +/-   a few $)  ??
> >>>>>
> >>>>I briefly spoke with Dr Soltis at the recent Northeast IBM Conference.
> >>>>
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>>asked him to put OS/400 on a laptop to distribute to universities.  He
> >>>>told
> >>>>me that he floated the idea and nobody was interested, including
> >>>>
> >>>COMMON.
> >>>
> >>>>Apparently, if IBM can't find demand, they're disinclined to fire up a
> >>>>production line to create dumpster-filler.
> >>>>
> >>>>This may be an opportunity for us to tell Rochester that we're
> >>>>
> >>>interested
> >>>
> >>>>in
> >>>>a low-cost OS/400.
> >>>>  --buck
> >>>>
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