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Let me confuse the issue about MS Word. Let's suppose you loaded it on to your Citrix server and accessed it with a Citrix client... This would be one way of easing the pain of installing upgrades to new versions of the client - use Citrix. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@mn.mediao To: midrange-l@midrange.com ne.net> cc: Sent by: Fax to: midrange-l-admin@mi Subject: Re: DDS Screens To Java drange.com 02/25/2002 03:04 PM Please respond to midrange-l Swing is the more recent and preferred (I think) graphical interface for Java. A thick client is one where the applications reside on the client. Things like M$ Word might use data on a server but the program is installed completely on the client and runs there. A thin client is one where the applications reside elsewhere. Some of them get downloaded as needed but are never stored on the client. Portions of applications will also run on the server, rather than the client. I think :-) Dan Bale wrote: > > Umm, please explain "Swing interface" and "thick client" (I know Windoze is > "thick", as in "thick in the skull", is this the "thick" you're speaking of? > <g>) > > - Dan Bale > > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com > [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Joe Pluta > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:23 PM > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > Subject: RE: DDS Screens To Java > > > From: Hall, Philip > > > > Although this route doesn't create 'Java screens', it generates > > HTML on the > > fly and caching seems to be non-existent... > > > > BTW: Java screens in my book would be a (JFC)Swing interface. > > That's an important point, Phil. A "Java" screen to my mind is a > thick-client Swing application running on the PC, as opposed to an HTML > interface running in a browser. > > The other issue is whether you actually convert the RPG programs to Java. > Currently, all commercial solutions that I am familiar with leave the > application written in RPG. They either modify the application to use a > different interface, or screen scrape the 5250 data stream. The former > reduces your interactive requirement, the latter requires no modification to > the code. > > There are several HTML vendors (myself included). A commercial conversion > to HTML using one of these tools currently starts at around $20,000, > depending on the size of the application and the size of the box. There is > also a variable amount of consulting required. The RPG programs stay as RPG > programs, but the interface is HTML. Some of these are screen scrape > solutions, some use program modification. > > There are also a couple of thick client vendors. The last I heard, Jacada > has both a screen scraper and a program modification interface to thick > screens. Linoma Logic (whom I partner with) provides a product/service > offering designed to help you move your applications to a client/server > architecture that supports a thick-screen interface. > > The other options are to roll your own, using e-RPG (Brad's technique), > e-deployment (my technique), or Nathan's relational data framework. > Nathan's is the only one with a license fee, but his is the most complete of > the three. Both e-RPG and e-deployment are more of a technology concept > than a product. > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- Vern Hamberg Would you like to see a challenging little arithmetic puzzle that might get you or your kids or grandkids more interested in math? Go to <http://cgi.wff-n-proof.com/MSQ-Ind/I-1E.htm> Sillygism-- Something is better than nothing. Nothing is better than a ham sandwich. Ergo Something is better than a ham sandwich. _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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