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> From: Andy Nolen-Parkhouse [mailto:aparkhouse@mediaone.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:32 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Model 400 upgrade cost
>
>
> Terry,
>
> Some thoughts:
>
> The purchase of an AS/400 changed with V4R1.  Previously, the
> operating
> system and program products were licensed separately.  With V4R1 this
> changed and the OS (but not the LPP's) were bundled with the hardware.
> If this machine was officially upgraded on IBM's books to
> V4R3, then you
> would be entitled to use the OS by purchasing the hardware.  Under
> normal circumstances, the licensed program products would
> _not_ follow.
> If V3R7 is officially installed on that machine (regardless
> of what CD's
> are in the box), then the OS would not come with the machine.


Even though V4R3 hasn't been installed yet, its licensed for
the box.  Probably in IBM's eye's its an official upgrade...


> Getting compilers by PTF?  I don't think so.  Do you have specifics on
> that?


I just found out a few minutes ago that this only happened at V4R5
if you have (had) software subscription.  That lets me out. I do not
believe it is currently on software subscription.


> Regardless of the current OS, you would obtain upgrades by
> purchasing a
> software subscription.  Software subscription is priced by processor
> tier.  Within the Model 400 line, processor #2130 is P05,
> #2131, #2132,
> and #2133 are P10.  Prices used to be $600/year for P05 and
> $2,000/year
> for the P10.  I don't know what they are now.
>
> If you want to do this, prepare for battle; IBM has great
> difficulty in
> processing transactions like this.  Find out what IBM thinks is
> installed on that serial number.
>
> Regards,
> Andy

Thanks for the info Andy.  I'm beginning to think this may be a
losing proposition in terms of cost -- at least on my salary :(

Bummer.

Terry








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