Re: Savsys 21 (was Probably very easy, Newbie Question)

We run the FULL system once a month also. A copy of the LAST FULL system save 
is held on site, with the original being sent off site. The last 7 years of 
monthly system saves are saved. We also do a FULL system save each week-end, 
with SAVCHGOBJ and SAVSECDTA each night. I can see a few raised eyebrows with 
exclamation points appearring above peoples head. I come from a mainframe 
background, working in a savings and loan. During the S & L debacle of the 
80's, we had to produce data from each month-end for the past n years. It was 
then that we realized, a full system save would have been the best approach, 
rather than taking data from these sets of tapes, with thge operating system 
being on anothe set of tapes, realizing that the 3rd reel cannot be read etc.
Overkill - most definitely. Am I confident during our semi- annual disaster 
recovery tests, you bet (still apprehensive though)

>>> "Norbut, Jim" <Jim.Norbut@Grubb-Ellis.com> 12/21/01 09:37AM >>>
I run the FULL save once a month.....makes me (and more importantly...my
boss <g>) sleep better at night.
It might be overkill.....but better safe than sorry.

How often do other people run it ?

Jim Norbut
Systems Administrator
Grubb & Ellis Company
Phone   (847) 753-7620
Fax     (847) 753-9854

 -----Original Message-----
From:   thomas@inorbit.com [mailto:thomas@inorbit.com]
Sent:   Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:52 PM
To:     midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject:        RE: Probably very easy, Newbie question

On Thu, 20 December 2001, Jill Grine wrote:

>   I was attempting to backup up the whole system on a bimonthly
> basis.

Keep in mind that a FULL system save may be rarely needed, perhaps
semi-annually or even less frequently. This may only be needed after release
upgrades, adding new licensed program products, significant PTF activity,
etc. If the system is stable, more normal user library and directory
backups, plus SAVSECDTA and SAVCFG possibly into savefiles in a "user"
library, should be sufficient on a regular basis. (Daily SAVSECDTA and
SAVCFG into online savefiles can be very handy in some circumstances, giving
near immediate access while taking little space.) Using SAVCHGOBJ daily then
gives useful recovery options.

Just be sure to have a couple separated copies of the full system save,
preferably on media from two different vendors or at the least from two
different batches of tape to prevent possible bad batches from ruining both
copies. And maybe even a SAVSTG set as well -- this can come in handy
sometimes for fast recovery if the recovery procedure is understood. (I've
seen it save a system even when recovery was _not_ understood -- i.e., the
first time I had to rely on it.)

Tom Liotta

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Tom Liotta
The PowerTech Group, Inc.
19426 68th Avenue South
Kent, WA 98032
Phone  253-872-7788
Fax  253-872-7904
http://www.400Security.com


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