RE: Modify SYSVAL QSYSLIBL -- MIDRANGE-L

Hi,

Based on this thread, I placed a call to of the "librarian" folks in the
lab, who indicated that he thought the system would IPL, but user work
would have a problem.  His comment on restricting it is that users had to
take "some" responsibility for their actions.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
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                    "jt" <jt@ee.net>
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QSYSLIBL


                    12/17/01 10:26 AM
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                    midrange-l






Al,

Don't know what the precise odds are.  Maybe 50/50...?

But I'm EXTREMELY risk-aversive, myself...  Even if the odds were a million
to one, I wouldn't take that risk (on a production system).  "Not gonna do
it" because the recovery on a cratered system would surely not be worth any
potential gain, that I can see from trying something like this.


I'd like to other thoughts on the subject, though.


jt


| -----Original Message-----
| From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
| [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of
| barsa@barsaconsulting.com
| Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:04 AM
| To: midrange-l@midrange.com
| Subject: RE: Modify SYSVAL QSYSLIBL
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| If you attempt to "run" a command from QSYSV4R4M0, you get a diagnostic
| message CPD0118, and an escape message of CPF0001.  My thought is that if
| you attempted to put this library higher in your library list that QSYS,
| you likely might crater your system.  Anyone have thoughts????
|
| Al
|
| Al Barsa, Jr.
| Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
|
| 400>390
|
| 914-251-1234
| 914-251-9406 fax
|
| http://www.barsaconsulting.com
| http://www.taatool.com
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|                     "jt" <jt@ee.net>
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|                     12/16/01 11:59 PM
|                     Please respond to
|                     midrange-l
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| Frank,
|
| You wrote, "IBM should prevent the backwards compatibility libs getting
| into
| the SYSLIBL."
|
| Ya...  I'd say I agree with that...!  Can users implement this through
| security if IBM doesn't.  RVKOBJAUT, but then you need a program that
| adopts, to run compiles...  Kludge...?  (Which I pronounce kloooodge...;
-)
|
| jt
|
| | -----Original Message-----
| | From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
| | [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of
| | Frank.Kolmann@revlon.com
| | Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:32 PM
| | To: midrange-l@midrange.com
| | Subject: Modify SYSVAL QSYSLIBL
| |
| |
| | >I have not done this but I wonder what happens if
| | >I modify QSYSLIBL to put QSYSV4R4M0 at the top,
| | >on an OS at V4R5.   Warning do not be tempted to try.
| | >Frank Kolmann
| |
| |
| | >>DON'T DO IT.  QSYSV4R4M0 is a library provided for *PRV compilations
| | only.
| | >>Al
| | >>Al Barsa, Jr.
| |
| | >I, and I'm sure Jerry too, agree completely.
| | >
| | >Didn't catch the REASON behind the question...  Maybe there's another
| way
| | to
| | >accomplish this, via LPAR.  But don't know the original
| problem that was
| | >being addressed.
| | >
| | >jt
| |
| | I dont have a reason as such. One of our programmers
| | modified a jobs *LIBL (system portion) with CHGSYSLIBL.
| | Could not even do a SYS REQ cancel, or SIGNOFF.
| | It is simply something that is very easy to do and
| | I suspect will disable the AS400.
| | IBM should prevent the backwards compatibility libs
| | getting into the SYSLIBL.
| |
| | Frank Kolmann
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