We had vendor software that did their best to get around those pesky IS
folks.

First of all, it created their own user profiles, one of course with god
like authorities.

Second it restored a CL program which did nothing but call a command line.
Of course this program was owned by QSECOFR.  Made it easier for their
support people to talk Joe the accountant through some steps to resolve an
issue.

Rob Berendt

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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin



                    "jt" <jt@ee.net>
                    Sent by:                  To:     <midrange-l@midrange.com>
                    midrange-l-admin@mi       cc:
                    drange.com                Fax to:
                                              Subject:     RE: CD Burning 
software?

                    12/09/2001 10:19 AM
                    Please respond to
                    midrange-l






Al,


IIRC (and I'm pretty sure I do) the docs said that QINSTAPP *MUST* be owned
by QSYS.  I don't always believe the docs, and comments on the list
indicate
otherwise...


I'm still flummoxed by this issue of LODRUN...  OT1H, you're lookin to pay
good money to a software vendor, and run their app or tool on your
system...
But OTOH, you wouldn't trust their install program...?!?

Like you said, I think there's a bug in the logic here, as you necessarily
imply an awful lot of trust in the vendor, in the first place.


jt

| -----Original Message-----
| From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
| [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of
| barsa@barsaconsulting.com
| Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:50 AM
| To: midrange-l@midrange.com
| Subject: Re: CD Burning software?
|
|
|
| A few points:
|
| 1).  If Brad's device (which I have contacted him on, and expressed an
| interest in purchasing) emulates a 7208, it supports LODRUN.  LODRUN was
a
| cheap command to write, and was basically written in CL.
| 2).  I could be wrong here, but I don't think that there's an ownership
| restriction on LODRUN programs (which must be called QINSTAPP and be
saved
| from QTEMP), although there are clearly run time restrictions.  I've
| probably written more QINSTAPP programs than anyone.  I am out of the
| office, so I am limited as to my ability to look up stuff.
| 3).  When I buy software, I am placing trust in my vendor.  (Maybe I'm
| stupid.)  So I do not consider this a security risk.  Clearly LODRUN is
| better tan following a run sheet that I could screw up.
|
| Al
|
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| Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
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|                     "Brad Jensen"
|                     <brad@elstore.com>        To:
| <midrange-l@midrange.com>
|                     Sent by:                  cc:
|                     midrange-l-admin@mi       Subject:     Re: CD
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|                     drange.com
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|                     12/09/01 01:24 AM
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|                     midrange-l
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|
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|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Don" <dr2@cssas400.com>
| To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
| Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 1:25 PM
| Subject: Re: CD Burning software?
|
|
| >
| >
| > Uh, anyone shipping any product SHOULD support LODRUN.
|
| Thanks for the suggestion, I'll talk to my people about this.
| Should be pretty easy to add to the product.
|
| I have to ask, is there anyone on this list that considers CDs
| with LODRUN a bad idea to install on their AS/400?
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