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My recollection, based on some conversations with Rochester, is that
there is a long history of temporary PTFs not going away as part of an
upgrade.  Some old systems had objects lying around from many previous
releases, just taking up space.  I don't know if IBM has resolved this
issue, but I have always permanently applied PTFs prior to upgrading.
My full system backup is taken before doing the permanent apply.

Regards,
Andy Nolen-Parkhouse

> <Anyway, I would submit that prior to an upgrade, if you need to apply
> ptf's
> *perm to have enough room to load the software, that you will be
> completely out
> of room as soon as you finish loading the newly bloated OS for
whatever
> release
> you are moving to, let alone loading two more cd's full of ptf's.>
>
> That's not what I saw. I gained space after applying perm. I wish I
> remembered
> the semantics of this (anyone) but applying perm cleans up a bunch of
> stuff,
> removes duplicate copies (A and B) etc. I think (?).



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