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Exactly. PHil > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com > [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Westdorp, Tom > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:07 PM > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > Subject: RE: Tierred pricing (was Tiger tools...) > > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> > >> >2. Does the software for a larger machine require more > >> >coding, support etc. to make up for the difference? > >> > >> Depends on the product, but it is not unreasonable to > >> expect more support issues > >> with 1000 concurrent users than with 10. > > >Yes, I can see this, but we're talking processor level, not > >users. User based tiered pricing is the lesser of the two > >evils for the fact you pointed out, but it's not sold as > >such in the iSeries world. It's based on processor level. > > The processor level basis is what's screwed up. I used to work > for a hotel > software company, and they charged by processor group. Hotel W > licenses the > software for $n. They learn to love the AS/400, and decide to move to > AS/400 based financial software. This requires getting a bigger > box, so the > hotel vendor shows up with its hand out looking for more $n+. > Why? No more > rooms, no more guests, no more revenue, just a bigger capacity > AS/400. The > financials outfit also demands more money because of the size of the box. > It could run on a p10 alone or a p20 with hotel. The hotel people can > understand if you price per hotel room, build a new tower and the price of > the hotel software goes up because you're doing twice as many rooms. The > tiering by processor level is just plain wrong, except for the OS. > > The software houses are too lazy to develop their own tiering > model, so they > ride on IBM's. Suppose Code/400 was based on processor level. > If I ran it > on my 720 with 10 pgmrs I'd pay $X, but if I run it on my 830 > with the same > 10 pgmrs it's $X+. Still ten pgmrs. > > Each piece of software needs it's own tier basis. Some by hotel > room, some > by number of accounts, some by number of seats, etc. One size doesn't fit > all, nor does one tier structure. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Stone [mailto:brad@bvstools.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:49 AM > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > Subject: Re: Tierred pricing (was Tiger tools...) > > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:30:32 -0500 > Douglas Handy <dhandy1@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Brad, > > > > >1. Besides the fact that it's the "norm", what reasons > > are > > >given for the need to price software on a tierred level? > > > > To make it affordable to a wider range of customers. If > > priced uniformly, the > > averaged cost would be cost prohibitive for the small > > guy. > > Ah yes... but this could also be looked at as "To charge the > guy with the bigger machine more money, becaues they must > have more to spend." > > I expected the answer you gave. :) I don't buy it, though. > It's the answer you would get from the seller, not the > buyer. Which leads to the fact that iSeries software is > overpriced to begin with. > > > > > >2. Does the software for a larger machine require more > > >coding, support etc. to make up for the difference? > > > > Depends on the product, but it is not unreasonable to > > expect more support issues > > with 1000 concurrent users than with 10. > > Yes, I can see this, but we're talking processor level, not > users. User based tierred pricing is the lesser of the two > evils for the fact you pointed out, but it's not sold as > such in the iSeries world. It's based on processor level. > > > > > >3. What other industries tier their pricing for the > > SAME > > >product? (ie gas costs the same for a ferrari and a > > tempo). > > > > Try government taxation. :) If the business makes more > > money, Uncle Scam wants > > a bigger share. Same with King Louie. > > Well, I'll give you that one, but the goverment is screwed > up more than IBM is. :) > > > > > BTW, gas *does* cost more for my Northstar engine than > > for a Ford Tempo... > > Different octane is different product. And you don't NEED > 92 octane for your Northstar. I doubt it's compression > level requires it, no matter what your Caddi dealer told > you. :) > > Bradley V. Stone > BVS.Tools > www.bvstools.com > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) > mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) > mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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