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Re Microsoft: I'm reasonably sure it's Urban Legend at this point. It's pretty hard to do business of any sort and not cross paths with the iBox; Microsoft's downside risk of discovery that they're using iBoxes would be horrible for them and great for us. They'll just charge ahead with SAP R/3 on NT...what we don't know is how many Nathan Myrvold clones are required to keep that baby running. And you can bet SAP has a banks of offices filled with very sharp SAP folks, and there are likely a couple of very sharp Microsoft folks living at SAP. It's good, smart business for both of them. If the Microsoft business systems guys had to use generally-available Microsoft resources, they'd be lining up on the Space Needle for the short way down. But I digress: presenting these rumors as fact is unprofessional and you expose yourself to having to counter vehement Microsoft denials. What's the application? What are the perceived NT benefits? How much will it cost to get there? And how much will it cost to keep it going? If the AS/400 is doing the job, the client should be looking for cost justification to replace it. Any assumption offered for cost justification can be challenged...and sometimes introducing uncertainty into the decision-making process is enough to derail a hare-brained plan. If nothing else, you should get the NT gang to offer the "I-bet-my-job" commitment in writing on hardware and software costs. There can be staggering "hidden" costs in shifting platforms...even if you lose this one, you may have a great war story the next time you face this situation. I have a friend in Seattle who faced the same problem. His client wanted to be able to download data into spreadsheets and balked at upgrade costs. So they went NT...but failed to consider (or disclose the cost of) multiple licenses (for 30 remote locations), additional servers (one per remote location), and a requirement for faster lines. The $65K AS/400 option has been replaced by a >$200K NT option...and monthly telecom costs are up by $4K forever. He knows because he's selling them the PC hardware: he's making money, but he knows it was a boneheaded move. Go figure... This is why you need an MBA, not a BS, to sell the iSeries...it's all about cost justification. -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Glenn Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:18 PM To: midrange-l@midrange.com Subject: Help Save the iSeries I've been given the chance by a client to justify the existence of their AS/400 instead of it being replaced with NT / SQL Server (although the AS/400 has a small chance, per the client). I have no doubt that keeping the AS/400 is the way to go, but I'm not very good at selling it. I've pasted below my very rough notes so far. If anyone would like to contribute to this cause or can point me to an existing report, I would appreciate it (either to the list or private email). Thanks, Jeff Jeff.Glenn@glennconsulting.com Save the iSeries! *The existing core applications have been running strong for years and continue to run today with very little administration. The AS/400 is a big part of the infrastructure and success of the company, but not many realize it since it doesn't require a lot of attention. Integrated system - describe strengths. *SQL database can be implemented on iSeries instead of or in addition to traditional DDS. SQL, DDL and DML. *Integrated xSeries adapter (IXA) allows the iSeries to centrally manage multiple physically attached Win 2000 xSeries servers. Will provide the example and URL describing the company recently featured using this technology and their benefits. *Wireless, pervasive computing is supported for future applications. Will provide the profile and URL of the Venetian Hotel project in Vegas where guests may check in & out and keys printed(?) anywhere across their large property with Palms connecting to an iSeries. (?DB2 Everywhere or DB2 Anyplace or something similar?) *With iNotes(?) supports MS Outlook and web browsers as clients to Lotus Notes/Domino email (wireless also). Provide benchmarks where recently over 100,000 concurrent users were supported running Notes on an iSeries. Also, provide the FAA story and URL where they got fed up w/NT instability and rebooting every night & decided to replace many NT servers with 1 iSeries. *Supports Java and beats Sun in performance - provide benchmarks. *Now supports Linux. Provide info on recent Linux awards. *Supports Unix w/PASE. *Now supports logical partitioning (LPAR) centrally managed by OS/400(?). *Lowest total cost of ownership (TCO) despite higher initial costs - provide excerpts and URL to results of the recent TCO study. *Now has GUI, Operations Navigator for example. Existing applications may be modernized with relatively small amount of effort. *Has integrated web server - Apache and IBM HTTP server. Also optional Tomcat applet server?? Provide a list of web sites powered by iSeries. *Mention Websphere, its uses and the awards it's won. *Compilers and IDE (CODE/400) are now included with the OS (verify?). *Long history of reliability, since '88 (and before w/34, 38). Provide info & URL on recent award from resellers as best midrange server (3yrs in a row) (hp was second, Compaq was last). Provide uptime % info and stories of boxes that haven't been IPLed in years. *New technology, despite it's longevity and despite misinformation within and outside the industry that see the box as green-screen only and old technology. RISC, early 64-bit, SOI (silicon on insulated...? copper?), Regatta Power4?, High Speed Link (HSL), gigabit I/O, more?. *Many large, well-known corporations depend on the iSeries. List some examples. Maybe % of Fortune 500 companies. *Maybe mention that iSeries revenue was up in all geographic areas according to IBM's 3rd Qtr earnings announcement just released. *Security - OS/400 advantages. Low virus risk. *Many applications exist for the platform. *Maybe mention how Microsoft uses (through outsourcing) AS/400s for distribution(?) (if that's still true). _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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