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Of course this is OT, but there is a big difference between Vietnam and the
current situation.  Quite a lot of American foreign policy can be construed
as meddling in the politics of other countries: the Vietnam thing, trying to
assassinate Fidel Castro, etc.  Too many Americans perceived the enemy as
being within the US; in hindsight, we've found that nearly organization and
movement, regardless of their views, had their own dirty tricks.  We had to
deal with McNamara and Fonda.

Kent State: the response was not appropriate for the situation.  There is no
question about that...but we had to deal with the Weather Underground too.

The difference is the murder of 6,000 civilians, and the numerous other
asymmetrical attacks in the last 20 years (doesn't 9/11/2001 make you wonder
about TWA 800?).  This is attempted genocide and nothing more.

You might be surprised (or terrified) by the number of people with
concealed-carry permits.  The police carry loaded weapons, and armed
soldiers guard military installations.  We've seen how airplanes with fuel
and innocents can become weapons; why shouldn't we guard airplanes too?

Osama's boys aren't coming to come chanting, "Give peace a chance."  In this
situation, unloaded weapons will get more people killed.  I'll bet the
firing pins are in and the magazines are full.  I doubt the weapons are
cocked, but it doesn't take long to handle that one.


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Michael.Clinch@state.sd.us
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:36 AM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: COMMON Update...

Is this what the 4 protestors thought at Kent State also.
I know the Guard there over reacted.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Portal39@aol.com [mailto:Portal39@aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:31 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: COMMON Update...
>
>
> --
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> SOME IDIOT  IS  GOING TO CHALLANGE THE NATIONAL GUARD AND GET
> THEIR ASS IN
> TROUBLE, AT BEST.
>
> MANY  OF THEM ARE  FISTY WEEKEND WARRIORS , NOT  WANTING TO  BE THERE
>
>
>
> A. Ports
>
> In a message dated 10/23/2001 8:50:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ALeisk@Banta.com writes:
>
>
> > Subj: RE: COMMON Update...
> > Date: 10/23/2001 8:50:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> > From:    ALeisk@Banta.com (Andy Leisk)
> > Sender:    midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> > Reply-to: <A
> HREF="mailto:midrange-l@midrange.com">midrange-l@midrange.com</A>
> > To:    midrange-l@midrange.com ('midrange-l@midrange.com')
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does
> not understand
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> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Would bet that they not only don't have any rounds, the
> magazines aren't in
> > the weapons and I would further the bet to say that
> probably the firing pins
> > have been removed.  They are always stored with out firing
> pins - and
> > usually the pins are only separately issued when one is
> going to a range to
> > fire the weapon.
> >
> > Andy Leisk
> > Senior Programmer Analyst
> > Banta Global Turnkey Group
> > Menasha WI USA
> > Phone: 920-751-4434
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don [mailto:dr2@cssas400.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 2:59 PM
> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Subject: COMMON Update...
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, you couldn't ask for a nicer day!
> >
> > Woke up this morning, dropped of my rental car and walked
> the remainder 8
> > blocks to the convention center in shorts, t-shirt, and
> tennis shoes!
> >
> > Security is much more present at the conference center than
> before...
> >
> > It was rather humerous to look at all the national guard'ers at teh
> > airports on the way up...with their m-16's...which I would
> wager a steak
> > dinner didn't have any bullets in them....
> >
> > Don in DC
> >
> >
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