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  • Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.
  • From: "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 20:54:50 -0500

John,
You are right on the money. In addition to what you mention, IBM
takes great pains that the name "iSeries" does not appear on any
green screen (AS/400 has been replaced by OS/400 on the main
menu in V5R1). Now there is nothing wrong per se about this,
AS LONG AS WE ALL UNDERSTAND WAS IS GOING ON.

----- Original Message -----
From: John Rockwell <midson@earthlink.net>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.


> Here's a thought.  What if IBM thinks the only way the iSeries can survive
is by
> getting rid of RPG?  The thinking would go something like this.
>
>    1. Customers are tied to their legacy applications by the programs
they've
> grown accustomed to.
>
>    2. These legacy applications taint the iSeries when it's competing
against the
> latest technologies because competitors dismiss
>        them as old green screen applications.
>
>    3. Most of these green screen applications are in RPG and a lot of the
more
> valuable ones are interactive in nature.
>
>    4. Now what happens if we suddenly make a seemingly unrelated marketing
> change, breaking the pricing of the AS400 into
>        two separate features, batch and interactive, and then charge a
fortune
> for the interactive segment.  And let's make it even
>        more interesting by tuning CFINT so it really does succeed as a
governor
> when you move to versions 4.5.
>
>    5. How long will it take for RPG and the high price of the interactive
feature
> to be linked together, making new technologies
>        like Domino, JAVA, et al, more appealing because they conveniently
run in
> batch as far as the AS400 is concerned (even
>        though this changes the definition of batch a bit)?  Thus through a
little
> sleight of hand the argument changes from language
>        vs. language (with a company usually having to rely on its own
in-house
> programmers judgment) to an argument simply
>        over dollars (with a company having more than enough accountants to
make a
> case against the legacy).
>
> Just thinking out loud of course.  It also makes me wonder about the
requirement
> that you have to move to 4.5 (where the governor works very well) to get to
an
> 820 box.  Some weekend when no ones on the system I'm going to start a
bunch of
> interactive jobs, set them to 0 priority, and see if they can give the
governor a
> run for its money.  (Of course I won't change the class priority value in
case I
> have to re-IPL to get QINTER functioning again.)
>
> Jim Franz wrote:
> > IBM! and the iSeries division still "made" money. The rumors of our
demise
> > are greatly exaggerated.

> > From: "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@leif.org>
> > Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.
> > > the good news is that IBM apparently foresee a
> > > *SLOW* demise of the platform. Extrapolating their own
> > > figures show a 1.5% decline per year. since the
> > > fraction of IBM's revenue resulting from the AS/400 now
> > > stands at about 10%, you can do the arithmetic.

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