Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.

It is interesting to note that with all the times I've seen IBM's actions
referred to as "stupid" or "foolish" they are making money in a market that
seems to be taking its toll.

Chris Rehm
javadisciple@earthlink.net
If you believe that the best technology wins the
marketplace, you haven't been paying attention.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Franz" <franz400@triad.rr.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.


> Many posts are asking or pointing to iSeries decline as the reason for
MC's
> demise. It is clear the iSeries is not growing by leaps & bounds. But it
is
> also clear the entire tech industry & many other publications are having
> similar problems. One of the biggest Internet & paper magazines, The
> Industry Standard www.thestandard.com has shrunk dramatically in size
(more
> than MC & News) and is in the middle of dramatic layoffs & cutting.
Compaq,
> Dell, Gateway are all slashing. HP's going to layoff 6,000 workers! Some
> fiber optics co just took a 45Billion hit. Lucent may die. And look who
just
> posted a modest return?
> IBM! and the iSeries division still "made" money. The rumors of our demise
> are greatly exaggerated.
> jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@leif.org>
> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.
>
>
> > the not paying attention was just a take-off on your signature.
> > no need to be sorry.
> > and lots of other (most?) people are also in denial.
> > the good news is that IBM apparently foresee a
> > slow demise of the platform. Extrapolating their own
> > figures show a 1.5% decline per year. since the
> > fraction of IBM's revenue resulting from the AS/400 now
> > stands at about 10%, you can do the arithmetic.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris Rehm <javadisciple@earthlink.net>
> > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.
> >
> >
> > > That so? So everyone else here has been expecting this but I was in
> denial?
> > > Wow, sorry.
> > >
> > > Chris Rehm
> > > javadisciple@earthlink.net
> > > If you believe that the best technology wins the
> > > marketplace, you haven't been paying attention.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@leif.org>
> > > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.
> > >
> > >
> > > > maybe you just haven't been paying attention?
> > > > It is called denial...
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Chris Rehm <javadisciple@earthlink.net>
> > > > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:37 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, I'm not sure it is all doom and gloom, but I know it isn't a
> > > > > _positive_ sign.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it mostly says that the market for AS/400 specific
> technologies
> > > is
> > > > > getting smaller. Which would mean, I suppose, that if the iSeries
is
> to
> > > > > survive it needs to compete in more popular marketplaces.
> > > > >
> > > > > But what it really says to me is that the market is much further
> along
> > > that
> > > > > road than I thought. I am very sorry to hear that! It caught me
off
> > > guard,
> > > > I
> > > > > guess I thought I'd have heard more speculation about such an
event
> > > before
> > > > > it happened.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris Rehm
> > > > > javadisciple@earthlink.net
> > > > > If you believe that the best technology wins the
> > > > > marketplace, you haven't been paying attention.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Don" <dr2@cssas400.com>
> > > > > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:35 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > UH, What do you THINK is says?! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 09:17 PM 7/26/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > > > >I've got to say, Don, this blows my mind. Unreal. What does
that
> say
> > > > > about
> > > > > > >the state of the market?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Don" <dr2@cssas400.com>
> > > > > > >To: <Undisclosed recipients:>
> > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:49 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: Midrange Computing is liquidating.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just recieved a call from Shawnna Allison at Midrange
> > Computing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The company is folding.  They told the employees that today
is
> > > their
> > > > > last
> > > > > > > > day.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is a bit of a shock.....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Don in DC
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
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