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Oh God no! We are in 1. No M36 (Hey we're V4R5 or above). And I believe
no 36E. I was just trying to help the other fellow understand.
Rob Berendt
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A smart person learns from their mistakes,
but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
ken shields
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for M36?
drange.com
07/26/2001 04:44 PM
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MIDRANGE-L
I'm glad your shop has all those people to handle all those worlds.
Try 1.
rob@dekko.com wrote:
>
> I'll admit that there might be some 'pure' M36 customers. But I would
hope
> that some are running mixed mode: Some native, some M36, and maybe some
> 36E. The developers working on the M36 don't care what version the OS is
> on. They're lemmings. The developers working in the native version are
> either working on seperate projects or the replacement solution. They
> might care about which version the OS is on. These companies might have
to
> make a decision as to when to 's^!+ or get off the pot'.
>
> Rob Berendt
>
> ==================
> A smart person learns from their mistakes,
> but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
>
>
> "Bale, Dan"
> <D.Bale@handleman.c To:
<MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> om> cc:
> Sent by: Subject: RE: last
OS400 ver for M36?
> owner-midrange-l@mi
> drange.com
>
>
> 07/26/2001 12:19 PM
> Please respond to
> MIDRANGE-L
>
>
>
> Agreed, Rob, but in the scenario which prompted this thread, I did not
get
> the feeling that this M36 customer was going to purchasing V5R1 software
> any time soon. Since they're M36, doesn't that preclude *any* native
> AS/400 environment? If so, they couldn't add any new software if they
> wanted to. Well, I digress, but is there any S/36 software packages out
> there available for sale?
>
> Any shop still running M36 long ago decided that the environment was
> sufficient for them then, and still is now. It is in my (shallow???)
> opinion that these shops have no need to upgrade the OS. Everything
works
> fine as is. If the system is up-to-date on PTFs, there should be no need
> to worry about IBM dropping support for the release.
>
> Or have I missed something here?
>
> Dan Bale
> IT - AS/400
> Handleman Company
> 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952
> D.Bale@Handleman.com
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
>
> -------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob@dekko.com [SMTP:rob@dekko.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: last OS400 ver for M36?
>
> Unless of course you accept software from any vendor running V5R1.
>
> One example is compile a screen with HLPARA(*RCD) on V5R1 and try to
> get
> that to run on a machine running anything earlier than V4R5. And
V4R5
> will
> only work if you have ptf's SF65906 and SF65976.
> Not counting this bug, sooner or later you'll want to take advantage
> of a
> newer feature.
> I heard an interesting story this week. Seems that a software
vendor
> polled their customer base, at a user group meeting, as to whether
or
> not
> they would be upset if they stopped supporting anything prior to
V4R3.
>
> There were ZERO objections. They were stunned. They pulled some of
> them
> aside to confirm. Some confessed to being on an earlier version but
> were
> praying for the day when that vendor would stop supporting the old
> version
> so they would have an excuse for management to upgrade.
>
> Rob Berendt
>
> ==================
> A smart person learns from their mistakes,
> but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
>
> "Bale, Dan"
>
> <D.Bale@handleman.c To:
> <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
>
> om> cc:
>
> Sent by: Subject: RE: last
> OS400 ver for M36?
>
> owner-midrange-l@mi
>
> drange.com
>
> 07/25/2001 07:30 PM
>
> Please respond to
>
> MIDRANGE-L
>
> I guess I just look at our systems - a development box stuck at V3R2
> and
> several other boxes at V3R7 - and these things just keep going and
> going
> and going. These will be replaced SOON(Yeah !!!), but for those
> companies
> who insist on staying with a product that IBM chooses to abandon, I
> guess I
> don't see any reason to get upset about being stuck on an old
release
> of
> OS/400. In my experience, by the time IBM drops support for a given
> release, that release is stable enough to run without problems for a
> long,
> long time.
>
> Dan Bale
> IT - AS/400
> Handleman Company
> 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952
> D.Bale@Handleman.com
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
>
> -------------------------- Original Message
--------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerome Draper [SMTP:jdraper@trilosoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:41 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: last OS400 ver for M36?
>
> That's the plan for now.
>
> Jerry
>
> Jerome Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since 1976
> Network and Connectivity Specialist -- Mac's, LAN's, PC's,
> Windows,
> Linux, Sun, and AS/400
> Representing Synapse, CLI, Nlynx, Perle, Lucent, 3Com and
Others
> .....
> <http://www.trilosoft.com> - (415) 457-3431 - (415) 258-1658fax
-
>
> jdraper@trilosoft.com <mailto:jdraper@trilosoft.com>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bale, Dan <mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com>
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <
mailto:MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:41 PM
> Subject: RE: last OS400 ver for M36?
>
> >what the heck are they supposed to do?
>
> Um, why not just stay at V4R4?
>
> Dan Bale
> IT - AS/400
> Handleman Company
> 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952
> D.Bale@Handleman.com <mailto:D.Bale@Handleman.com>
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
>
> -------------------------- Original Message
> --------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerome Draper [SMTP:jdraper@trilosoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:04 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: last OS400 ver for M36?
>
> Thanks.
>
> How many AS/S36 shops are there and what the heck
> are
> they supposed to do?
> They could migrate to S36E to get to V4R5 but then S36E
> sunsets.
> So then
> what?
>
> Believe me. These shops are not going to rewrite
to
>
> native AS400 next week.
> We are talking simple businesses that work fine as is.
>
> Joe Frank, senior architect of SSP, told me that
you
> can
> teach a person to
> run a S36 in one day and they can. You can teach a person
> to run
> an AS400
> in a week and they still can't do it.
>
> :-)
>
> Jerry
>
> Jerome Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since
> 1976
> Network and Connectivity Specialist -- Mac's, LAN's, PC's,
> Windows, Linux,
> Sun, and AS/400
> Representing Synapse, CLI, Nlynx, Perle, Lucent, 3Com and
> Others
> .....
> <http://www.trilosoft.com> - (415) 457-3431 - (415)
> 258-1658fax -
> jdraper@trilosoft.com
>
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