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After the machine craps out there is a way that you can get it to take a dump as you are bringing it back up, before it re-initializes storage, so that you are dumping the machine in the state where it lost its mind. I think it is a combination of using the control panel functions and DST. Then once you have the dump, IBM can dial in and look at it or you can send it to them. Sorry I can't be more specific, but when I needed to do this I had IBM on the phone telling me what to do, what areas to dump, what parameters to specify, etc. so my procedure would probably not apply to your specific problem. I assume if you are posting out here first, you probably don't have a SupportLine contract. It could get expensive paying by the hour, but if it is an important system and the PTFs don't help you, perhaps it would be worth it to try this route. -Marty +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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