Re: The future of computing -- MIDRANGE-L

John,
    That is quite unfair. It is not my fault that NT does not measure up
better. The same thing happened with Novell for a while. Any dolt with a
networked enabled version of Quicken would think he could set up accounting
for GE. I suppose I am also a bigot because I noticed Novell wasn't a
panacea, either.
    It is bad enough that youngsters who didn't know better installed such
junk. What I voiced my great objection to is the number of people with
experience in this field who did/do such things while pretending to be
"professionals."
    I don't think it is limited to any one industry. I do think that there
are a much greater number of them involved with NT. It is not plausible for
me to express why I feel that way without denigrating NT. But I am darn
tired of being called an OS bigot just because I happened to notice that it
is a second rate product.
    I'm not saying it is no tougher than a damp Kleenex or something. What I
am saying is that there has pretty much always been a completing product in
each of the arenas it has competed in which was superior to it.
    I don't really want to discuss it further either. I cannot really
comprehend how someone could not see the issues with NT and the huge cost to
the companies which have relied on it.
    But I am certainly not saying "NT users are scum!" I am saying I am
tired of getting the idea fed to me that Microsoft's success through illegal
means somehow justifies the many projects which implemented a second rate
product where plenty of first rate ones were available.

Chris Rehm
javadisciple@earthlink.net
If you believe that the best technology wins the
marketplace, you haven't been paying attention.



----- Original Message -----
From: "John Taylor" <john.taylor@telusplanet.net>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: RE: The future of computing


>
> Chris,
>
>
> What is your point? That some consultants are incompetent? That some may
be
> unethical? Personally, I think you're being shortsighted, and drawing
> simplistic conclusions. But none of that has anything to do with why I
> jumped into the thread, and I have no interest in discussing it.
>
> You claim that the thread is not becoming OS-X vs OS-Y, yet that is the
very
> foundation of your unethical-consultant argument. Indeed, most of your
> message consists of exactly such comparisons.
>
> If the thread manages to rise back above the "NT/Linux/AnyOS SUCKS"
> diatribe, then perhaps I'll find something interesting to participate in.
>
>
> -john
>
>
>
>
> >     The discussion was not "OS-X vs OS-Y." What I thought we were
> > discussing
> > was the willingness of people to install a solution that is not
> > best for the
> > customer simply because that is the solution they are familiar
> > with and thus
> > have income potential from that.
> >     When I noted that NT was not as robust as OS/400, I was an
> > AS/400 bigot.
> > When I noticed that NT didn't measure up to OS/2, I was an OS/2
> > bigot. When
> > I pointed out that Unix variants seemed to provide more stable and
secure
> > web service than NT, I was a Linux bigot.
> >     Certainly is must be difficult to justify years of installing
> > a platform
> > that had no other justification for being in the marketplace than
> > the market
> > influence of the producer. But on the plus side, the next version might
> > deliver on the last 9 years of promises.
> >     Yeah, I know that all sounds so harsh and attacking, but I am
> > just being
> > honest. I've used NT and I really think as a consumer operating
> > system it is
> > in the top 3. I don't really want to run it down because there isn't any
> > point.
> >     But the mistakes of yesteryear are all behind us. As NT becomes more
> > viable I think we all should consider it when and where it is viable.
> >     Besides, rumor has it the geniuses at Redmond will soon have a
64-bit
> > version!
> >
> > Chris Rehm
> > javadisciple@earthlink.net
> > If you believe that the best technology wins the
> > marketplace, you haven't been paying attention.
> >
> >
>
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