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Yup. IBM tried all that. I sure wish I'd been making even a tiny commission on the money they dumped into trying to sell OS/2. But what they had to fight against was the fact that people really don't go shopping for a new OS. OS/2 was popular in some industries, like banking. I think it sold into places where someone actually went into the board room with the cost comparison between the cost of conversion, and the cost of downtime. But most MIS shops didn't bother to compare stuff like that. Some that did wouldn't make the change anyway. At Cardinal West, where the standard for the desktop is and was Windows, I had OS/2 running. The desktop guy was a Microsoft fan. Every other desktop in the office would crash. I demonstrated for him my desktop running multiple copies of the same Windows apps that were crashing on Windows. I showed him how, with OS/2, you could isolate two Windows apps so that they would run in separate environments and thus be more reliable than if they were running on Windows. He never once considered OS/2. He spent many late nights tweaking Windows configs to try to make it stable, but to no avail. When the corporate desktop guys came to town, because we were putting on a trade show, I gave the same demo and the same spiel to them. But, of course, it would not be considered. The people hired to keep desktops running were hired because of their Windows knowledge. They were not about to make desktops more reliable by moving to a product where they were no longer the experts. There was no inroad for OS/2 to make. "Desktop experts" mean "Windows experts" so they weren't about to jump on it. There were a couple hundred RPG guys (not in Las Vegas, but around Cardinal) but none of them was interested in a more reliable desktop. I remember visiting with one group of them, and none of them wanted to use anything besides SEU on a green screen anyway. So, when they got PCs they'd just set up a full screen emulation session to get their PC to pretend it was a dumb terminal. If/when that crashed, the AS/400 protected their session so they didn't lose anything and got a little extra coffee time. So, I understand why IBM wants to dress up the AS/400 in new clothes and try new things to present it around. I understand why they want to tout a host of new and improved features instead of publishing catalogs of the existing apps. One thing IBM knows for sure, they won't lose their existing customer base any faster. After all, the guys developing on AS/400s now won't change unless they have to. IBM could shut down new development completely, and aside from a handful of complaining emails, nothing would happen. Is there some room full of AS/400 programmers somewhere that would say, "What! No updates to ILE?! I'm switching to C++!"? ----- Original Message ----- From: <rob@dekko.com> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Free OS/400 > > Sort of like IBM's full page ad which touted OS/2 and called NT 'Nice Try'. > And then listed why NT was so much weaker than OS/2? > > Rob Berendt > > ================== > A smart person learns from their mistakes, > but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes. > > Chris Rehm javadisciple@earthlink.net If you believe that the best technology wins the marketplace, you haven't been paying attention. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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