Re: V4R5 UPGRADE questions - 2nd try

Be aware of some Journal / Journal Receiver PTFs that need to be applied to the
system before the upgrade from V4R3 to V4R5 (has to do with old journals).  I
think they are now referenced in the PSP bucket.  Overall, it is a very simple
upgrade.  I can't recall exactly, but I thought I remembered a big jump in disk
usage from V4R4 to R5.  It may have been to do with Websphere.

    Make sure you order the Group PTFs for Database, Hipers, and Backup &
Recovery, in addition to the latest CUM.

    HTH

            Pete Massiello

Other than t

D.BALE@handleman.com wrote:

> Surely, some of you have BTDT (Been There, Done That)?
>
> I had posted this last Thursday evening, but have yet to see any response.
> Someone I contacted privately suggested that everyone was too enamored in the
> "NT -vs- AS/400" thread.  Now that that thread appears to be dying down <g>, I
> am hoping that I can get your attention.
>
> TIA!
>
> - Dan
> Dan Bale says "BAN DALE!"
> IT - AS/400
> Handleman Company
> 248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
> D.Bale@Handleman.com
>   Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
>   (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
>
> -------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
> (Whenever possible, please provide online references that I can refer to.
> Thanks!)
>
> I have been asked to provide a plan to upgrade our RISC boxes to V4R5.  Four
> of our boxes are at V3R7 and I realize there is a charge involved to jump to
> V4 (and I have this information so I am *not* asking for this from the group).
>  I also have one box at V4R4 and one at V4R3; both are on software
> subscription.  Does IBM charge anything to provide the upgrade materials, aka
> "media charges", shipping/handling, etc.?  Once ordered, how long does it take
> to arrive at my location?
>
> Can I safely assume that upgrading from V4R3 to V4R5 is a one-step, painless
> process?
>
> Not counting the time for backups, how long should I plan for installing these
> upgrades and the latest cume and group PTFs?  How many IPLs?  FWIW: The V4R3
> box is a 9404 model 400 with 128MB of memory.  The V4R4 box is also a 9404
> model 400 but with 224MB of memory.  The V4R4 box is also a little short on
> the available DASD, although I hope to have that rectified shortly.  Even so,
> I need to know how much more DASD is required for the upgrade installation
> process, and how much more DASD will be taken once the upgrade is completed.
> A colleague also suggested that newer OS levels may require more memory to
> keep the same level of performance; I have never heard of this issue raised
> with the AS/400.
>
> NOW, consider the following separately from the above:
>
> Management also wants me to plan to upgrade the four V3R7 boxes to V4R5.
> Because I believe the total costs involved to upgrade these machines will come
> close to (and probably exceed) the cost of replacing the boxes outright with
> lower processing tiered iSeries boxes (like a P30 to a P10 drop!), I doubt
> that this will come to pass.  However, management is demanding that I at least
> provide the plan.  Soooooooooo...
>
> Should I plan on making the two-step upgrade (V3R7 to V4R2? and then V4R2? to
> V4R5) on separate weekends?  I should add that one box is a four-hour drive
> away, and the other is a flight from Michigan to Nevada, so it would be *nice*
> to be able to minimize the travel if possible, but I can't afford for the
> system to be unavailable Monday morning.  I'd probably do a SAVSTG before
> doing the V4R2? to V4R5 upgrade, if only so I could restore the box if I ran
> out of time in the middle of the V4R2? to V4R5 upgrade.
>
> Like the two V4 boxes mentioned earlier, I need to know how much more DASD is
> required for each step in the upgrade installation process, and how much more
> DASD will be taken once the upgrade is completed.
>
> Are there other considerations that I haven't raised?
>
> TIA!
>
> - Dan
> Dan Bale says "BAN DALE!"
> IT - AS/400
> Handleman Company
> 248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
> D.Bale@Handleman.com
>   Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
>   (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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