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Thanks Nathan, Some valid points that you made.. Another persective if RPG and VB were rock groups I would compare VB to say "Radiohead" and RPG to "The Rolling Stones". The Stones may release an album every 3 years or so with a nice modern production but it would never be on the cutting edge. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Nathan M. Andelin <nathanma@haaga.com> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: Re: NT vs AS/400 > > The real question, is what does all this bode for our > > careers as OS/400 professionals? Obviously, there > > will still be work for some years to come. However, > > demand *will* fall off on a gradual basis, as is common > > for a mature market. Again, we only need to look > > around with our eyes open to see that this has already > > begun. With the possible exception of a few hot spots > > across the continent, demand for RPG programmers > > has declined over the past decade. > > A year or so ago, Roger Pence advised in one of his columns that RPG was > dying. I think people have been predicting the death of RPG since its first > release. A record of RPG compiler sales over the past decade might > strengthen one's ability to predict. I don't think IBM shares that > information with the public. On the other hand, IBM continues to enhance > RPG. And one member of the RPG Compiler team stated in answer to my query > about the Roger Pence article, that more people were doing more things with > RPG than at any time in its history. > > Part of my fastination with RPG is its stability. Let me illustrate with an > example. I'm familiar with a large hotel in Salt Lake City that runs most > of its business with home-grown RPG programs. Reservations. Check in. > Check out. Movie Rentals. Credit Card Authorizations and Clearing. > Accounting. Financial Reports. Even the electronic locks and door keys are > ultimately controlled by RPG programs. One interesting point, is that much > of the code for the system was written in the mid to late 80's. This is a > perfect example of lower cost of ownership. If the original code had been > written on an Intel platform, it would have probably gone through multiple > iterations of rewrites by now. > > One more interesting point. The AS/400 that supports the Hotel System, > along with about 20-30 active terminals has only 96 meg of RAM. That > underscores the efficiency of RPG. The use of RPG is probably a drop in the > bucket in comparison to Visual Basic. But my feeling is that RPG programs > probably run more critical operations than VB programs. At least in > business settings. > > I previously considered the lack of a GUI to be a major RPG handicap. I was > explaining this to one of my non-technical coleagues and suggested that he > might be interested in learning Visual Basic. Ironically both of us were > working on a Web based Reservation System for the hotel I mentioned in the > example above. He was representing the user group that sponsored the > system. I was using CGI at the time. He looked at the browser and said. > Well, isn't that an RPG GUI? > > I don't know for sure whether RPG has been dying, or not. One thing I do > know is that Web technologies, and a browser based GUI, have the potential > of breathing new life into RPG. It makes sense to move more function back > to the server rather than out to the client. The trick is to come up with a > framework that makes a Web interface as easy to write and maintainable as a > 5250 screen. > > Nathan. > > > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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