RE: Password Length (was: Client Access vs CAE) -- MIDRANGE-L

Al, I think Peter was talking about a user Alias longer than 10 character
that becomes part of the user profile. The native signon would be by the 10
char user profile object name like normal. The alias would normally be
identical to the standard user name, but could be optionally changed to be
longer than 10. 

Note: this is not a hot topic with me, I can just see how it could be of
benefit if dealing with networked resources such as QNTC and the like.....

Eric DeLong
Sally Beauty Company
MIS-Sr. Programmer/Analyst
940-898-7863 or ext. 1863
 


-----Original Message-----
From: barsa@barsaconsulting.com [mailto:barsa@barsaconsulting.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:47 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Password Length (was: Client Access vs CAE)



I would be surprised.  They have been bastardizing the database to be SQL
compliant, but I doubt that they would considering that for objects in
QSYS.  Furthermore, think about the number of system supplied files have
the user profile field in them.

Al



Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

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Hi Al,

I don't either, but I've already seen them provide longer names under the
covers with SQL tables. Maybe they'll do something similar with user
profiles -- a 10-character AS400 userid and a related 128-character userid
for other networks, something like they do with system directory entries
and
SMTP email addresses.

Regards,
Peter Dow
Dow Software Services, Inc.
909 425-0194 voice
909 425-0196 fax

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Subject: Password Length (was: Client Access vs CAE)


>
> I don't see IBM changing the naming convention for native objects anytime
> soon.  The number of things that would be screwed up would be immense.
>
> Al
>
> Al Barsa, Jr.
> Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
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> 400>390
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> 914-251-1234
> 914-251-9406 fax
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> http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> http://www.taatool.com
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>                     "DeLong, Eric"
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> That's just for passwords? Any idea if this will extend to user profiles
as
> well? Of course I see the problem there as QSYS naming conventions are by
> default 10 character object names, though I thought I'd heard that IBM
has
> objects under the hood that are referenced by longer-than-10-character
> names. I'm probably mixing these recollections all up....
>
> Also, are the new passwords still using the same encryption facilities as
> the old passwords? I seem to recall Lief complaining about how weak the
> encryption was.
>
> Eric DeLong
> Sally Beauty Company
> MIS-Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> 940-898-7863 or ext. 1863
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: barsa@barsaconsulting.com [mailto:barsa@barsaconsulting.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:20 AM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Client Access vs CAE
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>
> There's a new system value for password length, QPWDLVL.  Briefly (this
is
> somewhat oversimplified, but good enough for this forum) there are two
> choices.  Old passwords (10 characters long - non case sensitive) or new
> passwords (128 characters long - case sensitive).  Unfortunately, DST/SST
> now has it's own user profiles (you can create your own users too) that
> have passwords that are 128 characters long, case sensitive, and expire
> every 180 days.  The DST/SST user profiles have no relationship with the
> OS/400 user profiles, except when you use then new LPAR API's, in which
> case the passwords must match.
>
> Al
>
> Al Barsa, Jr.
> Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
>
> 400>390
>
> 914-251-1234
> 914-251-9406 fax
>
> http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> http://www.taatool.com
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>                     "DeLong, Eric"
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> IF you are running a version of WinBlows that in fact allow access to
> network resources using a different userid/password. Win95, Win98, WinME
> are all unable to access netserver shares under a different id. WinNT,
> Win2K, etc. are ok with this. I think I heard that V5R1 supports userids
> and passwords longer than 10 character, but I can't say for sure if
that's
> correct.
>
>
>
> Eric DeLong
> Sally Beauty Company
> MIS-Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> 940-898-7863 or ext. 1863
>
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>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Eric Sundell PMI [mailto:ESundell@pmi.delta.org]
>      Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:43 PM
>      To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
>      Subject: RE: Client Access vs CAE
>
>
>
>      Netserver is separate from CAE, you set up shares in Navigator to
only
>      the folders and printers you want to share. There is lots of info at
>      IBM's Netserver site, In the scenario below it would prompt you for
>      the password, when you map a drive to Netserver you can specify a
>      different user name.
>
>
>      CAE also has RUNRMTCMD so you shouldn't have a problem.
>
>
>      Eric Sundell
>      AS400/PC Specialist
>
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Wills, Mike N. (TC) [mailto:MNWills@taylorcorp.com]
>      Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:29 PM
>      To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
>      Subject: Client Access vs CAE
>
>
>
>
>
>      We are thinking about changing over to CAE but we have a few
questions
>
>      regarding changing over. Any answers would be appreciated. We have
>      heard
>      that Client Access support is going away soon.
>
>
>      1) How have you guys handled security using the Netserver?
>              1a) What would happens in this scenario?
>                      Username on the 400: JohnDoeSmi
>                      Username on the network: JohnDoeSmith
>
>
>      2) We have some programs automatically upload data to a PC by using
>      the
>      RUNRMTCMD and some batch files on the PC. Will this work in CAE? If
>      not, how
>      much work is it to change, and what needs to be done to do it?
>
>
>      Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>
>      Mike Wills
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