Re: backups on AS/400; part2

[rob@xxxxxxxxx]

On one of our systems we do the dedicated system save during the day.
However it is rather unique.  The only application it runs is Domino and it
is fully clustered with another 400 which runs Domino.

Anyway, you sign on with a special user profile with limited capabilities,
an initial program and a default menu of *SIGNOFF.  And you do this in a
computer room with ID cards required to open the doors.  It shuts down
stuff in an orderly fashion, then it does the big whammy and gets it into a
restricted state, and verifies this.  Then it runs the RCLDLO, RGZDLO,
RCLSTG, SAVSYS, SAVLIB *NONSYS, SAVDLO, SAV, writes out to a file how long
each individual step took. When it is all done it submits 2 jobs to a
single string jobq, (remember we are in a restricted state so they don't
run yet).  First job does a simple delay for 5 minutes.  Second job varies
on all sorts of stuff and starts stuff, (no, it is not QSTRUP, we don't
modify that.)  After submitting these jobs, it PWRDWNSYS *IMMED RESTART
(*YES) IPLSRC(B).  System IPL's and after the 5 minute delay, the varyon
kicks in.  We've been quite happy.  And the system is smoking fast so it
takes under 2 hours from start to finish.

Rob Berendt

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Al, maybe you've been around the block way too many times to count on this
issue, but what's your take on the fact that a SAVE 21 type of save, one
requiring a dedicated system with all subsystems ended, must be run
interactively from the system console?  I find it ridiculous that, after
all
these years, IBM still has not given us a solution to this gaping hole.  Do
others feel that way?  Most shops I know of can only do a dedicated system
backup (which, IMHO, is the only sane way to do a backup; your comments on
SWA
considered) off hours in the middle of the night, and the only way I've
been
able to figure out how to accomplish this is to sign on to the console
prior
to leaving for the day and start the backup application that waits until
late
at night to start the ENDSBS *ALL and run the backup.  Most AS/400 shops
aren't big enough to be able to justify the expense of a night operator.
The
so-called way to secure this is to lock the console using the key on the
display.  It would seem to be a no-brainer (well, consider who's talking
here,
o.k.?) to allow a batch job to run from the controlling subsystem in a
restricted state.  But what do I know?

I have taken a renewed interest in this pet peeve of mine, considering my
new
responsibilities.

- Dan
Dan Bale says "BAN DALE!"
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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