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Al, maybe you've been around the block way too many times to count on this issue, but what's your take on the fact that a SAVE 21 type of save, one requiring a dedicated system with all subsystems ended, must be run interactively from the system console? I find it ridiculous that, after all these years, IBM still has not given us a solution to this gaping hole. Do others feel that way? Most shops I know of can only do a dedicated system backup (which, IMHO, is the only sane way to do a backup; your comments on SWA considered) off hours in the middle of the night, and the only way I've been able to figure out how to accomplish this is to sign on to the console prior to leaving for the day and start the backup application that waits until late at night to start the ENDSBS *ALL and run the backup. Most AS/400 shops aren't big enough to be able to justify the expense of a night operator. The so-called way to secure this is to lock the console using the key on the display. It would seem to be a no-brainer (well, consider who's talking here, o.k.?) to allow a batch job to run from the controlling subsystem in a restricted state. But what do I know? I have taken a renewed interest in this pet peeve of mine, considering my new responsibilities. - Dan Dan Bale says "BAN DALE!" IT - AS/400 Handleman Company 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952 D.Bale@Handleman.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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