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Simon, Is there an easy way to find the file names for the various cl commands? I'm guilty of what you pointed out and it's because I got tired of searching for the file names. I can never remember them. Phil e Hello Ron (and everyone else with an opinion on this topic), The "problem" is in how most midrange programmer's handle outfiles. They build permanent 'work files' and declare the work file in the processing program. WRONG! Here is how it is intended to work: Outfiles are a release independant method of retrieving information. IBM provides template files in QSYS for each of the DSPxxx commands. These files are created without members and with LVLCHK(*NO) specified. Using LVLCHK (*NO) allows IBM to add new fields at the end of the record format. They will not change the existing layout, they will not rename fields, they will not change field attributes. (If they do then generally a Rochester developer got it WRONG and you can APAR them.) Your code should declare the TEMPLATE, not the work file. You issue the DSPxxx command specifying the desired outfile and then OVERRIDE the declared template to the outfile. If you create a work file based on the template (via CRTDUPOBJ or by running the DSPxxx command once to create the work file) then your code will break when the DSPxxx command is enhanced to output additional fields. You should always let the DSPxxx command create the outfile on EVERY run -- unless you are using MBROPT(*ADD) -- to avoid problems with enhanced layouts. If you (and Rochester) follow the rules you won't have a problem with updated outfiles. Using the APIs avoids the issue and probably results in better performance due to reduced I/O but at the expense of increased complexity. Here are some examples of correct processing of outfiles to make the point clear: CL === PGM DCLF QADSPOBJ /*DSPOBJD outfile template */ DSPOBJD OBJ(*ALL/*ALL) OBJTYPE(*ALL) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) + OUTFILE(QTEMP/OBJLIST) OVRDBF QADSPOBJ TOFILE(TQEMP/OBJLIST) READ: RCVF /* do stuff until end of file */ ENDPGM RPG with CL driver ================== PGM DSPOBJD OBJ(*ALL/*ALL) OBJTYPE(*ALL) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) + OUTFILE(QTEMP/OBJLIST) OVRDBF QADSPOBJ TOFILE(TQEMP/OBJLIST) CALL RPGPGM ENDPGM FQADSPOBJ IF E DISK C READ QLIDOBJD C DOW NOT(%EOF(QADSPOBJ)) * Do stuff until end of file C READ QLIDOBJD C ENDDO C SETON LR C RETURN Regards, Simon Coulter. """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" "" FlyByNight Software AS/400 Technical Specialists "" "" Eclipse the competition - run your business on an IBM AS/400. "" "" "" "" Phone: +61 3 9419 0175 Mobile: +61 0411 091 400 /"\ "" "" Fax: +61 3 9419 0175 mailto: shc@flybynight.com.au \ / "" "" X "" "" ASCII Ribbon campaign against HTML E-Mail / \ "" """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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