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  • Subject: Re: Multiple sessions per CRT
  • From: MacWheel99@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:14:16 EDT

It might be useful for you to check out the features of REMOTE VIEW & DISPLAY 
ACTIVE BPCS jobs on the share ware site
http://www.precosis.com.au/rv1.htm
http://www.precosis.com.au/piu1.htm

As I understand the logic of this
You know that if you are in WRK*JOB you can 5-view info about one particular 
job, then look at the job stack and try to figure out what is the actual 
program in the stack that this person is running at this instance.
Well the Precosis shareware figures that out for each of the jobs that are on 
your 400 right at this instance & puts it on a nifty inquiry screen so you 
have a chart of who all is running what program right now.
It is conceptually similar to the old S/36 DF space U
I have not got a round tuit to try out this $500.00 deal so I not know if you 
can put cursor on some column & do a sort by program that is running so I can 
see how many people running same program or how many cases of same person 
running same program from different sessions.

We have ports with multiple devices that have multiple sessions on the same 
port.  At one time we had one person PC with 7 sessions.
However, the norm is several devices on each port & any of the sessions of 
any of the devices can eat any of the logical addresses & I do not see how 
the 400 information can tell us which of the addresses of a port are the same 
physical address, unless we play games with the configuration, which in fact 
we do.

We let automatic configuration do its thing, then we rename assigned name 
based on our own naming convention in which EV means at our Evansville 
facility, BY for Buying is our Purchasing Dept, and various other pairs of 
letters strung together tells us that this particular session is one of the 
addresses connected to the work station of receiving or shipping or whatever 
at this particular facility.

However, if you are not doing that kind of thing, you can still get at the 
port in the device descriptions & identify if you have multiple sessions on 
the same port.

I not know how critical it is to you that same person have multiple sessions 
on same device doing same program.  I think that if their productivity 
dictates that they using one session for one category of items like a 
facility or item class or customer, or however the application is written, 
then more power to their productivity - the more the merrier.

This kind of question comes up in trying to measure what resources we need to 
sustain what performance.  There is also an issue of licensing.  When we 
renew software license we need to be able to say with some honesty how many 
users we have.  This can be difficult when several people are using the same 
sign-on identity.  Also we have people with multiple sign-ons ... Use one for 
a particular environment, or for certain high security functions, where not 
normally use that sign on.

We have people who sign on some device, do some work, leave it signed on in 
middle of program, walk down hall, do some other work, use whatever vacant 
CRT convenient, do some work, and by the end of the day, that same person 
might be simultaneously signed onto half a dozen work stations throughout the 
building.  

Is that a problem?

Not if you have the precosis share ware & plenty memory to sustain the excess 
load.
Precosis can transmit F3 F12 F24 whatever commands are relevant to an 
unattended session in a locked office or another building where everyone gone 
home but session in middle of some program we not want to kill for risk of 
corrupting our data but we also want to do some restricted work like a 
backup, so instead you send it the commands that take the program to a soft 
landing.

Of course precosis is not the only outfit that does stuff like this & if you 
interested we can cite more sites ... I thought the picture of who all is 
running what program right now might be something relevant to your current 
interest.

We may or may not want to have an easy way of seeing which signed on program 
has not had recent activity by the user.

>     From: Steve Moland 
>  
>      If multiple copies of a program are allowed to be run, is there a way 
to 
> know, via retrievable system information, that more than one copy is 
running 
> at the same physical device which would be either a PC or a dumb terminal. 
> Application code or files that somehow attempt to use a list of device or 
> user names is not an option, since many users use the same user name and 
> device IDs may or may not be automatically assigned.  
>  
>      Steve Moland 

MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac)
AS/400 Data Manager & Programmer for BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 mixed mode (twinax 
interactive & batch) @ http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of 
Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical 
sub-assemblies - fax # 812-424-6838

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