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All we really need is a laptop running OS/400. _______________________ Booth Martin Booth@MartinVT.com http://www.MartinVT.com _______________________ "Mark Villa" <markvilla@knology.net> Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com 04/06/2001 07:30 AM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> cc: Subject: RE: What counts as technically slick? Your text :In my opinion "good enough" is the biggest single Your text :enemy facing the AS/400. Easy to agree... I think an excellent explanation to "RPG readers" without your accessibility to global views, but: 1) a myopic view of the reasons. 2) there are no enemies... As far as RPG goes, we need conversion tools, don't release a version without a way to automate conversion and testing. Instant gratification is the marching orders we are conforming to. Proactive: make all language barriers as smooth as CISC to RISC migration Reactive: Drop S/36 mode support ================================================= I think these are the things to recognize and fix: 1) IBM positioning against mainframe and other platforms as red headed stepchild, since day one! IBM should mail a roadmap to every customer explaining "what to do" and "when to AS/400 it" when your business needs change, every quarter. If the AS/400 is out of sight..it is out of mind... If you are in an "AS/400 only" shop, you can't appreciate this enough. 2) Industry lack of "how to" minimize a companies risk to convert. We don't take unnecessary risks, translated to spend money needlessly. I should not have to tell my manager that I need a school or 3 weeks time to convert RPG II to the new way without wrecking the company or using all of his resources. You can forget justifying outside help, where is the ROI? That language means -zilch- to his business. I should be able to type in migrate LIB(PRODLIB). The testing alone is hard to justify. There are too many other things on the "to do" list. The users are crying for new function not infrastructure. 3) Lack of media coverage. The "household name" effect. Perception...is everything... Our state (SC) chief justice laid out her technology plan last month. It describes the AS/400 as an obscure "green screen" computer that requires hard to find specialists. In other words, holding it's users captive, where as the proposed central GUI based server is going to magically free our judicial system. The justification: Public safety. Our green screens are hampering justice! The big consulting firms never recommend the AS/400 outside of "ERP for midsize manufactures" do they? This should be a hot sheet item at IBM. 4) IBM has no "killer App" for the AS/400, ERP is it's anchor I would think. -examples SEU - like Xedit, CICS/400 like CICS, IFS like PC & Unix, Database like DB2, 5250 like 3270, S36/mode like S/36. No originals. The fact that they are all on one box is the brilliance. I can't imagine spending 350K on an iSeries and then a month later going out to buy an email server (fresh install, not migration) for a different platform, within a constrained budget? Can you believe this happens? Big shops ========= negative acceptance from the mainframe shops of the AS/400 mentality since day one. System's programmers from the mainframe world generally talk down any AS/400 solution to management. I think that's why Linux is so popular, besides the perception of low costs. It's a technical nightmare and a techy thing. (It takes one to know one) Medium Shops ============ For the last few years, if another platform has a known solution, AS/400 needs a "ideal" solution to win. Usually, there is an array from choices within NT and 1 reasonable choice for AS/400, other than in-house. Few managers care for the AS/400, the under appreciated box. NT is usually the box to beat, even though AS/400 programmers know it is usually a mistake for business this carries no weight. Native GUI has sex appeal that is impossible to ignore. Small installs ============== Did not want to pay to begin with much less convert something that is working. ============================================================================ = Mark in Charleston SC +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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