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What do you mean lack of a GUI? Windows doesn't have a GUI if I insist on using TELNET to access it. The interface is defined by the application. Are you using Operations Navigator or 5250? Are you using a browser or C/S based application, or 5250? The problem is that the 400 gives you freedom of choice and people can't handle that. If more people used Operations Navigator then perhaps some of the concerns could be worked out. My biggest problem is speed. My second, is flexiblity. Let's face it, for green screens, the AS/400 5250 interface is second to none. For example if I want to change the properties on many objects I can place an option in front of all the objects and enter the new value in the command line. Sample WRKUSRPRF DAR*, place a 2 in front of them all and at the command line enter PWDEXP(*YES) and will change them all. Rob Berendt ================== Remember the Cole! "Bob Cozzi" <bobcozzi@attglobal To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> .net> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: MIDRANGE-L Digest V4 #172 owner-midrange-l@mi drange.com 02/26/01 12:53 PM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L I think I was complaining about marketing. And I wish my staff had the option to leave to go to other AS/400 sites. That ability is quickly being eliminated as people start ill-fated NT projects to replace their 400s. Also, if Mercedes equates to an AS/400, then how do you explain the lack of a Graphical User Interface, native on the AS/400 in the year 2001? Also, when you go into buy a Corvette (which I have done) you get treated like a king, (granted the dealer does try to screw you, but they figure if you can afford a Corvette they won't try quite as hard <g>. My big problem, however, is that it typically costs you a significant fee above and beyond the AS/400's cost, just to buy the thing. I'm talking about administration and legal paperwork fees. So could you still afford a $40k to $60k Corvette if it cost you another $10k to $20k in time, money, administration/staff overhead, and legal fees? I think you'd go buy a Mazda Miata. The difference is that Corvette deals know their clients. IBM also knows their clients, but the IBM staff that deals with the customers has little, if any, knowledge of their clients--they only know quota and the "punch list". I don't agree, however, that the AS/400 is a Corvette or a Merc, or Lexus, or anything else. Today, except for speed and ease of use, all computer hardware is interchangeable. Only the application of software makes it different. From: Lurton Keel <LKeel@unarcorack.com> Subject: RE: [RPGIV] AS/400 is dead long live iSeries? (fwd) I guess your point of view is whether your income is related to the proliferation of 400(iseries) or whether your income is based on working for a company that owns a 400(iseries). Consultants, publishers, etc. fall in to the former while I fall in to the latter. I am not really concerned with whether the iseries is in every computer room in the world, I am only concerned with the perpetuation of the series. IBM doesn't have to sell 100,000 per year. I only need a new one every 5 years and an upgrade every 2 years. Some of the shops around can run their business applications on Dell servers and so what if they are down a couple of times a month, they were cheap to buy and they get to see those sexy Dell advertisements and commercials. I don't really want anyone to sell them an iseries (they wouldn't have anything about which to complain). I drive a shiny red 2000 Corvette and I don't want everyone to have one. Chevrolet doesn't market the 'Vette the way BMW or Mercedez does but that is ok by me. Chevrolet sells all the Corvettes they can make. My 'Vette gets 28 miles to the gallon, will do 165 mph, does 0-40 in 4.8 seconds is designed to survive 150 mph crashes and the blue-haired ladies in the parking lot can't ding it with their doors since the body is plastic. It also costs less than my buddy's 2000 Ford Expedition and I still don't want everyone to have one. If every time IBM sells an iseries to a new customer, you have a potential customer, then complain about IBM marketing. If every time IBM sells an iseries to a new customer and you worry about losing some of your staff, then don't complain. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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