• Subject: RE: AS400 connectivity VIA the WEB....
  • From: "Carl Galgano" <cgalgano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:32:02 -0500
  • Importance: Normal

VPN ia pretty cool, but in some cases has been inconsistent.  Had lots of
trouble under WIn98 and upgraded to W2K professional.  The IP stack in it is
a little more robust.  MS PPTP VPN usually works pretty well and most
firewalls support it, I have used Checkpoints SecRemote and it always does
strange things to my IP settings, and I have installed it and uninstalled it
a dozen times.  It also does not work very well through my home proxy
server.  I have another client that uses a client called VS Client and it
seems to work the best.  We have even been able to get Harbinger's GUI EDI
mapper to talk to the 400 over the VPN, sometimes that has been a challenge
to get to work when the client PC and AS400 are on the same LAN, much less
WAN.
cjg


Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
Marietta, GA  30060
(770) 422-2995 - voice
(419) 730-8212 - fax
mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com
http://www.ediconsulting.com
AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and
Implementation
http://www.icecreamovernight.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Ken.Slaugh@cm-inc.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:14 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: AS400 connectivity VIA the WEB....



I often wish all our customers had the methods in place to allow for AS/400
services over the Internet. Most of them rely on us to suggest, setup and
train the computer solutions. Many network administrators and networking
consultants don't understand the AS/400. To them, the AS/400 is a very
isolated box that they either ignore and/or totally protect from something
like the Internet.

I like the VPN approach but for some reason it's not always easy to
install. I had someone walk me through the setup a year or so ago and
everything worked fine, but I know a few companies struggling to manage the
project to completion.

Carl... I've sent you Socket Sidewinder information under separate cover.

Ken Slaugh  (707) 795-1512 x118
Chouinard & Myhre, Inc.
AS/400 Professional Administrator/MSE
Client Access Specialist
http://www.cm-inc.com/



                    "Carl Galgano"
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                    owner-midrange-l@mi        WEB....
                    drange.com


                    01/27/01 07:28 PM
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                    MIDRANGE-L





Ken:
Send it to me and I will have it added to the download section of our site.
We are using a zillion different methods for connecting to customers over
the internet, generally the client specifies the connection.  I probably
have every VPN client known to man on my PC, but I usually use the PCOM
emulator, although I do not use CA, except where required (like ops
navigator).
cjg


Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
Marietta, GA  30060
(770) 422-2995 - voice
(419) 730-8212 - fax
mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com
http://www.ediconsulting.com
AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and
Implementation
http://www.icecreamovernight.com
Premium Ice Cream Brands shipped Overnight

"You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Ken.Slaugh@cm-inc.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 4:27 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: AS400 connectivity VIA the WEB....



Carl... We don't publish or publicize Socket Sidewinder on our site, if
that's your question.

I don't see any reason why you couldn't host it on a FTP site.

     Have you tried it yet? If you can get your customers to install it,
you'll be able to connect to their AS/400 in a matter of seconds without
actually putting the AS/400 'on the Net'. The savings in network hardware
and long distance charges easily justifies the use of Socket Sidewinder and
Mocha. Your customers can use it and Mocha, but make sure they understand
this is a TN5250 session only and is definitely not a replacement to
CA/400.

Carl... No credit, no crap is required or allowed.

Ken Slaugh  (707) 795-1512 x118
Chouinard & Myhre, Inc.
AS/400 Professional Administrator/MSE
Client Access Specialist
http://www.cm-inc.com/



                    "Carl Galgano"
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                    ting.com>                  cc:
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                    owner-midrange-l@mi        WEB....
                    drange.com


                    01/27/01 12:48 PM
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                    MIDRANGE-L





Ken:
Is this on your web site?  If not you can put it on ours if you like, of
course you would get the credit and the crap.  :)
cjg


Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
Marietta, GA  30060
(770) 422-2995 - voice
(419) 730-8212 - fax
mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com
http://www.ediconsulting.com
AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and
Implementation
http://www.icecreamovernight.com
Premium Ice Cream Brands shipped Overnight

"You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Ken.Slaugh@cm-inc.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 2:55 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: AS400 connectivity VIA the WEB....



Since this was a recent topic regarding 5250 to the AS/400, I thought I
might respond again as well. Last time I made an 'simple offer' to the
group and many of you took me up on it. I had the group email me at
mailto:ken@cm-inc.com to get a copy for free. The only condition was to not
involve much of my time and that certainly has been the case.

What is Socket Sidewinder?
     We at CMI use and have our customers use Socket Sidewinder. I wrote
Socket Sidewinder myself as I was dabbling with code in Visual Basic. What
this program essentially does is respond and control TCP/IP connections and
data streams. I listens for a connection on a configurable port and
establishes a connection to a different IP address and port. Using it and
Mocha TN5250, the Telnet client connects to Socket Sidewinder on an obscure
port (we use a four digit number to minimize compatibility issues). This
obscure port is configured in the advanced options of Mocha connection
dialog boxes. Having an obscure port 'hides' the Telnet capabilities but a
'Port Sniffer' can find it. Upon connection Socket Sidewinder itself
connects to the AS/400's port 23. Once connection the connections are
established, Winsock data arrival are 'redirected' to the partner
connection.

Using Socket Sidewinder does not require any network address translation or
proxy unless the PC run it requires one to connect to either the AS/400 or
the Internet. We at CMI run ours on an NT server but I've been able to use
it on my Windows 98 machine at home.

BTW... If any of you who downloaded, installed and configured had any or no
success, let me know. Feedback is a great design tool. For those of you who
might want a copy as well, the 'simple offer' still stands.



Ken Slaugh  (707) 795-1512 x118
Chouinard & Myhre, Inc.
AS/400 Professional Administrator/MSE
Client Access Specialist
http://www.cm-inc.com/



                    "Carl Galgano"
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<MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
                    ting.com>                  cc:
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                    owner-midrange-l@mi        WEB....
                    drange.com


                    01/27/01 09:56 AM
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                    MIDRANGE-L





As is the answer with most things.... it depends.  On your PC you need a
5250 emulator.  See www.mochsoft.dk.  On the 400 it really depends on how
the connection to the internet is made, if your AS400 is behind a firewall,
or proxy server.  You need to talk to your network guys to see if the AS400
has an external IP address, or if there is a specific port on your
router/firewall/proxy server that will forward telnet requests to port 23
on
the AS/400.  If can supply more info, I'm sure someone can help.
cjg
I just reread your message, and am now confused as to exactly what you are
asking.  Are you looking to start a 5250 session inside a web page (again
mochasoft has a java client that you can load in a browser) , or use your
web browser as the client (like using WSG)


Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
Marietta, GA  30060
(770) 422-2995 - voice
(419) 730-8212 - fax
mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com
http://www.ediconsulting.com
AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and
Implementation
http://www.icecreamovernight.com
Premium Ice Cream Brands shipped Overnight

"You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Vance Stanley
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:46 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: AS400 connectivity VIA the WEB....


 I am trying to connect to an AS400 VIA the WEB. I can
be on the AS400 and ping a website like YAHOO for
instance. I know how to set up client access at home
to get attached to an AS400 remotely via the web.
  What do I need to configure on the AS400 in order to
be at home using my DSL line and connect?


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