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IBM prefixes any numeric password with a "Q" automagically. To the user it just looks like they entered 12345. -- Gary Monnier garymon@400security.com The PowerTech Group 253.872.7788 PowerLock Network Security www.400security.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Mark A. Manske Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 12:41 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: RE: password security But, this user NEVER enters the Q and he changes it with chgpwd, I have watched his fingers, he does it ALL on the numeric keypad... This is want I don't get, I understand "how" IF you use the Q, but they never do use the Q. -----Original Message----- From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Eric DeLong Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:26 PM To: "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com" ; "Mark A. Manske" Subject: RE: password security Mark, I think you misunderstand. The Q is entered ONLY when entering the new password into the CHGPWD or CHGUSRPRF commands. After Qnnnnn was entered to set the new code, subsequent logins can be entered as numeric only. The user need never enter the Q again until the next time he uses CHGPWD. Then he'll need to enter the Qnnnnn in the CURRENT PASSWORD field. hth, Eric DeLong ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: password security Author: "Mark A. Manske" <SMTP:mmanske@minter-weisman.com> at EXCHANGE Date: 1/25/01 9:30 AM Hmm, thanks for that information; however; it does not answer the question of how the user did this, he did NOT put a Q in front, he also, did NOT as others had mentioned type letters that looked like numbers - and as qsecofr I cannot do what this user can do, nor can I do this same thing as myself. It also does not matter how I try to change the password (chgpwd/chgusrprf/edtusrprf). Also, we have one other user who has been able to do this using chgpwd, NO Q preceding as the security manual states - This user also has secadmin auth, but does not have allobj, but the first user that made this happen does have allobj due to the wonder of a canned package that we have been unable to limit the way it processes yet - I'm still working on them on this-like most software vendors.. So since it really is ALL numeric, and there is NO preceding Q and no preceding alphabetic character, how can these only two users be doing this and as myself it will not work that way (with a Q I can-but they do not use it) - my concern: is our security "working"??? as stated previously, V4R4, most recent cumm/hyper/DB/blah..blah..blah.. TIA Mark A. Manske [mailto:mmanske@minter-weisman.com] Sr. Project Lead Minter-Weisman -----Original Message----- From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Joseph D. Giusto Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:13 PM To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com' Subject: RE: password security Put a Q in front of the number and you can log in using just the number. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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