Mark,
     
     I think you misunderstand. The Q is entered ONLY when entering the 
     new password into the CHGPWD or CHGUSRPRF commands. After Qnnnnn 
     was entered to set the new code, subsequent logins can be entered 
     as numeric only. The user need never enter the Q again until the 
     next time he uses CHGPWD. Then he'll need to enter the Qnnnnn in 
     the CURRENT PASSWORD field.
     
     hth,
     Eric DeLong


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Subject: RE: password security
Author:  "Mark A. Manske" <SMTP:mmanske@minter-weisman.com> at EXCHANGE
Date:    1/25/01 9:30 AM


Hmm, thanks for that information; however;
     
it does not answer the question of how the user did this,
he did NOT put a Q in front, he also, did NOT as others had mentioned 
type letters that looked like numbers - and as qsecofr
I cannot do what this user can do, nor can I do this same 
thing as myself.  It also does not matter how I try to change 
the password (chgpwd/chgusrprf/edtusrprf).
     
Also, we have one other user who has been able to do this 
using chgpwd, NO Q preceding as the security manual states -
     
This user also has secadmin auth, but does not have allobj, 
but the first user that made this happen does have allobj due 
to the wonder of a canned package that we have been unable
to limit the way it processes yet - I'm still working on them 
on this-like most software vendors..
     
So since it really is ALL numeric, and there is NO preceding Q and 
no preceding alphabetic character, how can these only two users
be doing this and as myself it will not work that way 
(with a Q I can-but they do not use it)
- my concern: is our security "working"???
     
as stated previously, V4R4, most recent cumm/hyper/DB/blah..blah..blah..
     
TIA
     
Mark A. Manske
[mailto:mmanske@minter-weisman.com]
Sr. Project Lead
Minter-Weisman
     
     
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Joseph D. Giusto 
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:13 PM
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: password security
     
     
Put a Q in front of the number and you can log in using just the number.
     
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