• Subject: Re: AS/400s Extinct at Microsoft
  • From: "Richard Shealy" <r_shealy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:15:35 -0500

Dan,

I think you are correct about the spin.  Notice that the problem statements
are pointed toward AS/400, VAX, interfaces and MACPAC.  However, the
productivity and performance gains are attributed to SAP.  So, it looks like
the real solution to Microsoft's problems were application software related,
not hardware or operating system.

Richard Shealy



----- Original Message -----
From: <D.BALE@handleman.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: AS/400s Extinct at Microsoft


> After watching this thread thus far, I finally had to take a peek at the
M$
> propaganda.  My gosh, someone certainly has mastered the art of "spin" -
they
> probably teach the Washington pols this stuff!
>
> Methinks they wrote this pile of ... er, document after someone wrote in
one
> of the AS/400 trade rags that M$ was still using AS/400s.  November sounds
> about the right timeframe.
>
> Dan Bale
> IT - AS/400
> Handleman Company
> 248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
>
> -------------------------- Original Message --------------------------
> It's probably that the article didn't deserve a comment.  Look at some of
> the claims.  They migrated to Windows 2000 in 1999 (yeah, right ! - could
> it even stay up for an hour back then?).  Their chart implies there was
> only ever one AS/400 in Redmond.  Look at all the horsepower they claimed
> to have replaced with a meagre number of servers, and yet they claim
> sub-second response time.  And of course it'a all worded so they don't
> actually deny there are outsourced applications running on AS/400's (that
> are NOT located at Microsoft).  The whole thing smells like something from
> their spin department.  In my books there are liars, damned liars, then
> there's Microsoft.  Their performance in court in the DOJ trial proves
> this.  Remember when they tried to submit that doctored videotape as
> evidence and were caught on it.
>
> ...Neil
>
>
> "Chris Andrle" <andrle@localnet.com>
> Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> 2001/01/10 22:55
> Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
>
>
>         To:     <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
>         cc:
>         Subject:        AS/400s Extinct at Microsoft
>
>
> Did I miss a discussion regarding this article? Hard to believe it's been
> out there since November 22 without anyone mentioning it on this list.
>
> AS/400s Extinct at Microsoft Since May, 1999
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/showcase/itops/as400tn.asp
>
> Chris Andrle
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