• Subject: Re: XML Attributes
  • From: Phil Groschwitz <sublime78ska@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:43:35 -0800 (PST)

Management thinks in the short-term.  And it is a very
competitive environment.  And senior management thinks
this is a good thing because it weeds out the
under-performers.  

What can a manager do to stand out?  Convert to
another system.  Maybe its the phone system.  Maybe
its to citrix.  Maybe its to xml.

Whatever it is, the decision definately has nothing to
do with being the best objective solution.




--- "L. S. Russell" <leslier@datrek.com> wrote:
> What is really frustrating is, like you said, guys
> like Leo Laporte
> (who, by his own admission, hasn't written a program
> since punch cards)
> telling all these management types; " hey this is
> new and cool, it will
> save your business!"   Then when you ask for proof
> they start spewing
> the hype like Mr. Creasote in The Meaning of Life. 
> "Oh, it will save
> your business because it is pretty!" 
> 
> You have management, most of whom either have never
> written a program in
> their life or have not written one in a very long
> time, telling coders;
> "this is what we are gonna use, because the
> consultant said it will make
> me look like I know what I am talking about." 
> It is disgusting this, it must be business worthy
> cause they talk about
> it on ZDTV, attitude that most IT management have
> today.  
> 
> 
> 
> "Stone, Brad V (TC)" wrote:
> > 
> > And the same problem is there.  All your hard work
> meant nothing.  XML
> > didn't save your world.
> > 
> > It was rhetorical.  It would mean something to
> anyone that it's happened
> > before.  It's happened where I am hundreds of
> times.  And not just XML.  TRW
> > isn't as easy as it made out to be.
> > 
> > Brad
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Phil Hall [mailto:hallp@ssax.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 4:53 PM
> > > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > > Subject: Re: XML Attributes
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree, using a tool would be great.  But
> what if the person who is
> > > sending
> > > > you the data doesn't use a tool and the
> standards?  What if
> > > they don't
> > > want
> > > > to change?  What if they are your customer and
> you have to
> > > change your
> > > > ways!?
> > >
> > > There is having a discussion, then there is
> having a
> > > discussion for the sake
> > > of it. Your above statement can be countered
> (and as equally
> > > useless) by;
> > >
> > > What if they don't want to use X.12, they won't
> change, you
> > > won't change,
> > > they'll take their business somewhere else, what
> are you
> > > going do then...?
> > >
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