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Eric, I've been one of those fortunates (until recently) that had an employer who sent me to COMMON. Although, I've always said COMMON was so important that I would pay my own way. Unfortunately, since we've begun implementing to SAP R/3, COMMON is no longer a priority. From a developer's perspective we are isolated from the platform that is running R/3. I plan to continue going to one COMMON conference per year at my expense. I took a week vacation this past March and paid my way to San Diego. It is expensive, but I feel it is necessary to keep my skills and salary at the level I desire. I expect some of the cost to be tax deductible. We'll see what the tax guy says next February. The neat thing about paying your own way, is that you get to focus on the topics that really interest you instead of going to the sessions requested by your employer. Regards, Stan -----Original Message----- From: eric.delong@pmsi-services.com [mailto:eric.delong@pmsi-services.com] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:41 AM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re[4]: The relevance of COMMON (was Penton to buy Duke - I'm not really saying I'm frustrated with COMMON, exactly. Common *could* be a bit more affordable, but that's not the point. It's mostly frustration at TPTB who dangle the "training budget" in front of my nose as an incentive, only to use that money in other ways. In 15 years in midrange, I've had EXACTLY 1 day (6-7 hours) of training (in house no less) for a product I was already familiar with (I did learn some things, though). Everything else I've ever learned has been via manuals, books, Synon generated code (YUK! That's where I first learned subfiles.... S36 to AS400 shop, no one else had any idea how to do them), trial and error, and most recently this list and online resources. Don't misunderstand, I feel that the grunt work has paid off over the years. I learn best from my own mistakes, and I've made plenty over the years, but I can't help feeling that much of the grief and confusion could have been reduced or avoided completely with a bit of training and source materials. Recap: Training *should* be a benefit, to myself and my employer. It *should not* be the golden carrot that's continually just out of reach. That's the frustration. eric.delong@pmsi-services.com +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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