RE: State of the Midrange -- MIDRANGE-L

DaveK,

Yes. I'm still getting to grips with Java though! :-)

No but seriously, java still needs an OS client side with a GUI to run on.
(Be that Xwindows, Windows or OS/2).  Why not have something native on the
400. Like KDE is to Linux.

Alistair



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of David Keck
Sent: 23 August 2000 06:23
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: State of the Midrange


IBM's answer to this is for you to embrace a nice hot cup of Java, no ? -
DaveK

----- Original Message -----
From: Alistair Rooney <alistairr@tbsa.co.za>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: State of the Midrange


> Sorry guys, I know some of you will flame me for this,<RANT> but Joel has
> hit the nail on the head. WE know that green screens are fine and do the
job
> admirably. The rest of the IT world doesn't accept that. Perception is
> EVERYTHING. It's no use sticking our heads in the sand and saying "Well it
> works so I don't need to change it". Lets Lobby IBM for a REAL ground up
> GUI. Not a screen scraper, not a 5250 graphiciser, a REAL drag and drop
GUI.
> I know we don't need it but if the AS/400 (I/500) is going to be PERCEIVED
> as a 21st century machine we have to lose the green screen image.</RANT>
>
> Alistair steps down off his soapbox and shuffles away.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Joel Fritz
> Sent: 22 August 2000 05:54
> To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: State of the Midrange
>
>
> My ex boss recently left a job as CIO of an internet retailer because he
was
> asked to replace AS/400 based systems with an Oracle product.  In the
months
> since he left they have spent several million dollars and the Oracle
product
> isn't anywhere near ready.  The AS/400 systems worked, but had those nasty
> looking screens.
>
> I don't think the moral is that the AS/400 is inherently better, but more
> the perception thing people have been talking about lately.  My ex boss
> doesn't have a religious committment to the AS/400, but he prefers things
> that work and thought that installing the Oracle product would be career
> suicide.  He wouldn't have batted an eyelash if he had any confidence in
the
> Oracle product.
>
>
> AS/400:
>          Checker
>          16" Softball
>          Sidney Bechet
>
> Win 2000:
>          Toyota Camry (4 cyl with gold tone trim)
>          NFL
>          No Doubt
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don [mailto:dr2@cssas400.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 7:13 AM
> > To: Schenck, Don
> > Cc: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> > Subject: RE: State of the Midrange
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Don,
> >
> > they also run Charles's Schwab's web front end...which I use all the
> > time...but, then, that wasn't the point.  THe point was that
> > people are
> > dumping the 400 for NT and weenie boxes because of management
> > perception
> > that they're a far superior box to the 400...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Schenck, Don wrote:
> >
> > > Those "damn weenie boxes" run NASDAQ ... ever heard of it???
> > >
> > > AS/400:
> > >
> > > Buick
> > > Golfing
> > > Yanni
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Win 2000:
> > >
> > > VW GTI with coil-over suspension ...
> > > X Games
> > > Blink 182
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > While the AS/400 is the reigning KING of robustness and
> > reliability, the
> > > FACT is that Gen-Xers are attracted to Windows.
> > >
> > > Gen-Nexters are attracted to Linux.
> > >
> > >
> > > This is all startin' to get interesting.
> > >
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > >
> > > -- Don Schenck
> > >
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