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Brad wrote: >Hans, >Only you disable cookies and Javascript. ;) >Paranoia of javascript and cookies is unfounded. No, you're wrong. Paranoia regarding these two is quite well justified. Use of the two by web sites can result in the gathering of quite detailed information about your web surfing habits. And since privacy legislation in North America is rather backwards in comparison to more enlightened jurisdictions (such as Europe), you really don't know what organizations buy and sell personal information about you. Let me describe what can happen. As you probably know, one particular company has roughly half of all banner ad business. Web sites that use this company's service don't serve the banners themselves, but instead, code HTML which goes to the banner ad company's server. The banner ad company can set and read cookies on your machine. The banner ad company knows which web page requested the banner ad (using the HTTP_REFERER variable). Thus, the banner ad company can build up a good profile of where you surf. For the next step, consider those web sites that require user registration. When they sell their customer lists to the banner ad company, they now know not only where you've been, but who you are. Even if you only visit sites that promise not to well their customer lists, you may still have your privacy compromised. Consider toysmart, a web start-up that went belly-up. Although they promised not to sell their customer list, it is one of the things put up for sale by their creditors! (You can read more about the security holes involved with cookies at <http://www.cookiecentral.com/>.) JavaScript is a whole other can of worms. Personally, I tend to keep it disabled for my home browsing for several reasons: 1) My browser never crashes with JavaScript disabled. 2) Too many web sites do nonsense with it. Just look at the nonsense foisted on us by Geocities! 3) Some web developers use Javascript coding that is specific to a particular browser and you end up with lots of error messages popping up. The bottom line is this - I know I'm not alone in my concerns. If you code a dependency on cookies and JavaScript, you'll end up pissing off at least a few people. Heck, it's not like it's that difficult to avoid using these things. There are other ways to maintain session state (easy using Java Servlets in fact). Also, it's not difficult to limit JavaScript to things that only affect appearance and don't affect navigation through your site. Cheers! Hans Hans Boldt, ILE RPG Development, IBM Toronto Lab, boldt@ca.ibm.com +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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