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Well Stated and true Steven Easton www.5-10.com easton@5-10.com ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Programming tools (was DDS Support) Author: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com Date: 7/3/00 9:01 AM Mark Lazarus wrote using HTML: -snip about using a tool to create code/data definitions- >So you're putting the burden on the tool writers?? >I don't that's fair either, but as I mentioned above, >most shops don't seem have these tools anyway. Mark -your remark is exactly right and proper in the context of this discussion, and I quite agree with you - most midrange shops own no programming tools. There is a bizarre belief among the majority of midrange programmers that they require no tools to perform their job. None. No PC based editor, no change management, no data dictionary, no cross reference/documentation, no embedded SQL, no code generator, no "off the shelf" service programs (like OCX's or DLL's available for the PC platform.) This is about the only box where a programmer can be taken seriously when she tells her boss that "we don't need a (fill in the tool) - that's just one more thing to have to learn." On any other box, a programmer who is unwilling to learn will not be employed long and rightfully so. Because of this, there is little or no market for programmer tools on the AS/400. This reduces our ability to write robust modern complex code because we CAN'T GET programmer tools! The definition of "tool" is "something that allows you to do more work per unit time (code generator), or to do better work per unit time (change management) or to allow the user to work longer with less fatigue (PC based editor)." Why are any of these things undesirable in the AS/400 world, but de rigeur elsewhere? No, most AS/400 shops don't seem to have these tools, and that's not a good thing. Buck Calabro Aptis; Albany, NY "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." --Aristotle Billing Concepts Corp., a NASDAQ Listed Company, Symbol: BILL +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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