Re: DDS Support (Re: NT web server access to AS400)

[Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>]

What advantage would there be to the customer?  
SQL enhancements move at the speed of slugs.
DDS comes up with ideas that the SQL should target itself 
to supporting.  Sort of like competition is good for the market.
IBM lacks in supporting the new enhancements.  For example, you'd
think that there is a good business function to use DECS to transfer
BLOB information between Notes and DB2.





john.taylor@telusplanet.net on 06/27/2000 05:51:47 PM
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Rob,

Good point. Although that is not so much a deficiency of SQL, as it is a
feature of DB2/400. What else can you think of?

On another note, what harm would come of "stabilizing" DDS at this point,
and focusing their (limited) resources on a single DDL? Presumably, IBM
wouldn't even consider dropping support  for existing DDS features, so you
wouldn't lose any existing functionality.

Regards,

John Taylor
Canada

----- Original Message -----
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> The combiniation of a View and an Index that a logical file with select
and keys will give you.
>
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> john.taylor@telusplanet.net on 06/26/2000 05:57:55 PM
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> Al,
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> I always considered the various field/file reference abilities to be a
> rather poor substitute for a decent data dictionary. Maintaining data
> type/size consistency is probably one of the most basic functions in any
> data dictionary tool. Another basic function of such a tool is the
> generation of SQL statements for you.
>
> I assume that you already knew this, so you must have something else in
> mind. Now I'm curious. Aside from multiple member support, what else do we
> get with DDS that can't be done with SQL and a dictionary?
>
> Regards,
>
> John Taylor
> Canada
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> Subject: DDS Support (Re: NT web server access to AS400)
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> > At 02:15 PM 06/26/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Has anyone else heard that IBM is dropping (or maybe dropping support
is
> > >the wrong word) support for DDS. I heard this and found it shocking.
> > >Just curious no flames please.
> >
> > Clearly DDS is no longer strategic to IBM.  They want everybody to go
with
> > SQL for file definition, which IMHO is brain dead.
> >
> > SQL does not support all of the features of DDS.  AS/400 databases
contain
> > many less database design errors than other databases, due to the
> existence
> > of the RLDREF keyword.
> >
> > IBM is of the opinion that they want to reduce everything to it's lowest
> > common denominator.  To force you to go to SQL, new database functions
are
> > only being added through SQL.  We are actively looking at extending DDS
> > through TAA Tool.  This is not a pre announcement, but something under
> > investigation.
> >
> > Hey IBM, do it the AS/400 way, and you'll get a better product.
> >
> > Al
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