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I just got the annual buyers's guide issue of Midrange ERP Magazine which has some statistics of interest to a) BPCS_L on the alleged health of SSA b) Midrange_L on markets for AS/400 RPG programmers SSA apparently did not update this year's questionairre from http://www.mfg-erp.com but some data has changed from last year, so they got data from somewhere. # of installed sites for BPCS is down to 12,000 of which 20% are midrange, defined as Unix & AS/400 ... the Windows NT & PC/Windows boxes are not checked ... the Oracle & DB2 boxes are checked (Oracle is a surprise to me) 100% of the boxes associated with various ERP capabilities are checked. There's 250-300 ERP products for the midrange in this ERP buyer's guide ... when measured by # of alleged installed sites, last year at 18,000 BPCS was in 2nd place, but in this year's buyer's guide has dropped to tied for 6th place, unless I missed a relevant hit in this small print, also at 12,000 with Baan, behind Sage MAS 70,000 which only supports MRP II & Supply Chain & DRP & e-commerce & financials (not full ERP like front office MES quality engineering although I do not understand how you can do MRP II without engineering & I will need to check the definitions on how front office is different from financials), SAP 22,000 which supports all areas of ERP, Jet Form 20,000 which only supports MRP II & Supply Chain & e-commerce & data collection & flow mfg & ASP (not full ERP like inventory financials & quality although I do not understand how you can do MRP II with no inventory) Forecast Pro 18,000 which does Forecasting only (not full ERP), Macola Progression 17,000 which supports just over 1/2 of ERP areas (no forecasting engineering maintenance configurator quality warehouse management). Market share is only one indicator. Financial health is more important, making the leaders J-BOPS: JD Edwards, Baan, Oracle, PeopleSoft, and SAP. On the issue of the shifting fortunes of IT professionals seeking gainful employment supporting companies implementing this stuff or making improvements to it ... Gartner indicates 90% of Fortune 500 companies have purchased modules from ERP vendors but fewer than 20% have gone live. In the mid sized companies, more than half are using legacy products & have not yet selected a next-generation ERP system (there is a school of thought that it might be stupid to do so). The biggest problem for the midrange ERP vendors is that they are being encroached upon both by the vendors for the larger sized customers and by the vendors for the smaller, which other problems including implementing e-commerce & broadening the application base. I am giving just the barest summary here - you need to check out the June 2000 issue of Midrange ERP Magazine. Al Macintyre ©¿© http://www.cen-elec.com MIS Manager Programmer & Computer Janitor +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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