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Nathan, >In many cases, the need for a programmer to retain rights to his work can >not be predicted. The use of the word "need" above is arguably over-stated. For the sake of discussion, let me play devil's advocate. The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer (ie, me). >a. A highly creative programmer develops a product within the scope of >his employment which soon becomes a commercial success. Then he did his job well, and presumably got his full wages and benefits during the course of his employment. Isn't this what he agreed to when he took the job? Why does this create a "need" to retain rights to the work? You generally don't negotiate in hindsight -- you negotiate first. Otherwise, negotiations would be done very differently I'm sure. Why is it "unfair" to pay him what was agreed upon? Let's turn the tables around. A multi-manyear project is a total commercial failure, and the corporation loses ten times the amount the company paid the programmer. Should the guy at the top of the company approach the programmer about reimbursing the company for loses? Why or why not? Is the first scenario "fair" and the second "unfair"? >b. A programmer, while working within the scope of his employment comes up >with a great idea that would greatly benefit his employer. (snip) >So, the programmer decides to develop an inferior solution for his >employer while he develops the superior solution on his own. A potential >for conflict? More like a potential for a lawsuit. It would be *very* hard to do this legally, even on your own time using your own computer, especially when the product fell within the scope of your regular employment. You would need very explicit written authorization from the company to be able to pull this off successfully. I'm not arguing here whether that is right or wrong -- I'm just noting that is the way it is. >c. The programmer in scenario (a) is disgusted with the lack of fairness in >his employment. Remind me again what was "unfair" in scenario (a). >but he lacks the financial resources >required to start his own business. Not to mention that he may have signed a non-compete clause purporting to restrict his ability to do that very thing for the market covered by his current employment. The non-compete clause may not even be enforceable in court, but it can sure increase your start-up costs to prove it. >He finally decides that his current >employment is his best option at the moment. But, the quantity, quality and >creativity in his work declines. A lose-lose scenario? Why should the quality of his work decline? If his current employment is his "best option", and he is being paid what he agreed to, then what is "unfair"? If you feel your work has more value than your current compensation, then renegotiate your position to include profit sharing, stock options, the ability to moonlight and retain rights, or whatever. Whatever the outcome of the negotiations, if you agree to work for a certain set of terms, then what is "unfair"? Is it "fair" to have the quantity or quality of your work decline because you did not negotiate your first offer? Who is "unfair" in this scenario? I'm reminded of the parable in the Bible about the laborers gathered from the marketplace. Each was promised a certain amount to work the remainder of the day. Those hired later in the day were paid their agreed upon amount, as were those who were hired earlier. Yet the latter ones felt it was unjust to pay them what they agreed to when hired. Is it "fair" to demand more money in this scenario? Is it "fair" to pay them the original amount? Why or why not? For the record, I've been self-employed nearly my whole career, and never had any employees. I was an employee of a software firm for about four years, and while there did in fact create some software with great market potential. However, instead of marketing it they decided to keep it for competitive advantage. They still have full rights to it. So I know where you are coming from. Been there, done that. Didn't bring home the rights. But I'm still curious as to why this is so "unfair", and if you also feel it would be "fair" to recoup loses from an employee after a commercial failure. Doug +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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