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Dianne, Like Pete Massiello, I've been loading PTF's with users on for 10 years now. There's no harm in loading PTF's with users on the system. Applying them with users on can be an issue, particularly if they're delayed PTF's that need an IPL (users get so cranky about the computer shutting down while they're working! <grin>). Many PTF's can be immediately applied with users on, but it's best to only do individual PTF's this way, and only after reading the cover letters for that PTF and all of it's pre-reqs and co-reqs to be sure that IBM says it's okay. Dave Shaw Spartan International, Inc. Spartanburg, SC > -----Original Message----- > From: Dianne Saunders [mailto:bigsaunded@yahoo.com] > > All- > From recent discussion on the list, it appears that > many of you do a load/apply or an opt. 8 off the PTF > menu (with no powerdown) of your single or group PTFs > while users are on the system. I have almost always > done the PTF operations in restricted state, due to > warnings in IBM instructions not to have users on the > system while doing PTF commands. Are these warnings > only because of a possible IPL? Is it OK to do PTF > operations (scheduled for delayed application @ next > IPL) with users on? +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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