Re: WRKSYSACT(Is IBM trying to kill green screen on the AS/400?) -- MIDRANGE-L

They are making money selling me something I don't really need or want (for
now at least).  I think I should have the choice to pay for what I want and
not to be force to pay for something when I don't need it.

This sound a lot like a Gates move. Is IBM on an learning  curve? :)

Emilio Padilla

----- Original Message -----
From: <mcrump@ballfoster.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Lunes 10 de Abril de 2000 05:15 PM
Subject: Re: WRKSYSACT(Is IBM trying to kill green screen on the AS/400?)




Emilio,

The other thing to consider is what the AS/400 gets compared to or competes
with
on the green screen side of applications......

Green screen - mainframe, Unix with TPM

C/S  - NT/Wintel, Unix

Now I'm sure there are plenty of circumstances where this pricing model
doesn't
work but the intent is to allow the AS/400 to compete as well as allow IBM
to
make money where they can because you are a captive audience....it just
depends
on your point of view, doesn't it?

Michael Crump
Ball-Foster Glass Container Co.



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Hi everybody,
I was checking prices for an AS/400 with my configurator, and it seems that
IBM is trying to kill Green screen applications on the AS/400.  Why do I
think that? Check out the prices by CPW on an AS/400 720, Processor 2062 -
420CPW Batch & 1503 - 240 CPW.

According the prices on my configurator,  I found this:

9406 - 720 AS400 e Server
US$ 27000
2062           Model 720 Processor (256 Mb) 420 CPW          US$ 20000
                    Total
US$ 47000
                    CPW Value
US$ 111.90

1503          Interactive Card (240 CPW)
US$ 155000
                   CPW   Value
US$   645.83

This is almost 6 times the CPW value between Interactive and Batch.

So, I'm already thinking about changing all my applications to C/S and run
everything in Batch.  No more Green Screen.

What do you think about it?

Emilio Padilla
Padilla Asociados





----- Original Message -----
From: "Don" <dr2@cssas400.com>
To: "Reger, Bill" <breger@levitz.com>
Cc: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Lunes 10 de Abril de 2000 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: WRKSYSACT




On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Reger, Bill wrote:

> The system governor.  This is the animal that governs how much interactive
> performance you get versus what you purchased.  Hog is the right word, but
> IBM bred this animal on purpose.

Hmmmm....nah, not going to touch that one...I'ld get more calls and hate
mail than I do already...:)

Don in DC

>

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