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Colin, The vendor has a copyright on the Database Structure. In most cases the client owns the data, but the vendor owns the structure. All the other issues are "negotiable". And should be found in your license agreement. But, if the system is provided without source code, you probably do not have any "right" to directly manipulate the database. That said, the database probably consists of AS/400 externally defined files. And you can get their layout by using DSPFFD. It also depends on the type of application. Vertical LOB apps tend to ship with source code & have customer interfaces & customizations (Eg: AR/AP, GL, Payroll, etc). Horizontal apps do NOT tend to ship with source code (Fax systems, DB utilities like DBU & PFE). But, regardless, if you have a maintenance contract with the vendor, you should be able to get the information you want. They might not like it, but the should tell you. I know Cornerstone would give the info to you. But, if you do NOT have a contract, then you are probably SOL. And yes, I am a software vendor. Regards, Bob Crothers Cornerstone Communications -----Original Message----- From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Colin Williams Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 9:44 AM To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com' Subject: Who owns the database - client or software vendor? If a software vendor supplies a system to a client, who owns the database, the client or the vendor? And if the client has rights to the data, does he not also have rights to acces that data using tools that are independent of the vendor? Does this also mean he has rights to the layout of those files in the database, so that he can actually use the tools on the data? Without the layout, the database is nothing right? +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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