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http://www.training.ibm.com/ibmedu/spotlight/as400.html = IBM education on the AS/400 ... there is also a 1-800 # to get a catalog of all courses offered, and directories of which classes being held in your region, and IBM fax back service can give anyone what the curriculum is of any given class, maps to class sites, etc. The Manager of any AS/400 facility should know about this, but if not, a call to your hardware supplier will give it to you. > From: pike4@ix.netcom.com (Phil Kestenbaum) > > It still comes down to a lack of advertising. Or being on the circulation list of publications that have the advertising. Every AS/400, that IBM sells, comes with a gratis copy of the AS/400 magazine from IBM which we can subscribe to for free & every issue of that magazine has a calendar of upcoming IBM education. http://www.as400magazine.com When we converted from S/36 to AS/36, IBM included a lovely poster, which is now on the wall in our computer room, with URLs for accessing the manuals & anything you might want to know about the AS/400 - some of them may no longer be relevant URLs, but the principle here is that if you are involved in the hardware side of setting up an AS/400 there is a wealth of contact information. If you are involved in getting the software, it is very difficult to avoid getting on the mailing lists of places like Midrange Computing Showcase advertising add ons for the AS/400 & I do not know how we found out about News/400, but I think any AS/400 professional who is not subscribing to it, is a fool or is too poverty stricken to understand that you need to spend some money to try stay current on how it can be used. If you get either publication, you know that they have both classes in AS/400 stuff, and on-line forums and resources like we are now on. http://news400.com/ http://www.midrangecomputing.com/forums/ Whether you get the dead tree editions, the e-mail newsletters, or visit the URLs ... your access to such information means a constant flood of educational opportunities - I must admit I do not have any of the RPG text books, other than what came in RPG classes, because RPG changes too rapidly to heavily rely on such a source, and that might be why advertising for them is weak. IBM also has some forums & lists & news & etc. resources - here is one I found from an earlier thread here http://www.as400.ibm.com/db2/db2main.htm This thread reminds me somewhat of 20 years ago at a Science Fiction Convention when I realized that a lot of Science Fiction fandom activities are a secret from many Science Fiction Fans ... if all you do is read the novels, watch the movies, etc. you are totally oblivious to the world of SF music & SF humor & SF poetry & SF art & etc. & even if you stumble across one of these cons by accident, you still are lost. I can understand computer users who are on some system other than IBM, not knowing about the specifics of IBM solutions, and I can understand users of one IBM hardware not knowing about other IBM solutions, but it is really sad when people are on a particular platform & not know much about it. So here we have users of AS/400 who are oblivious to AS/400 resources, but advertising of those resources are much more pervasive to AS/400 sites than SF cons are within SF product packaging. Is this the norm or the exception to the rule? I suspect the problem is that we so rarely need to call AS/400 tech support, that some people forget it even exists, except for those paying the bills & approving the contracts. PCs break down so often & are so user-hostile, that the support organizations are much more ever presently obvious to all users. A parallel is that I have a 1-800 # to call for auto support & have a hard time finding the card in my wallet when I need it because many years between cases of using it. The AS/400 is like that to most of its end users. > I remember the Access fellow asked if he > should learn RPG, because he saw how important this was. > None of us knew what to tell him, or where to steer him. Another question is which language will replace RPG, like SQL or Java ... which to learn next. > From ddi@datadesigninc.com (nina jones) > what people want are reliable computers that are easy to use. Except that end users are buying CHEAP PCs that have lots of problems. When people buy their SECOND computer, have they learned anything from their first buy, or do they just go with more of what they are now accustomed to? Advertising for alternatives to an uninformed purchase needs to reach people ready for an upgrade replacement choice. That's where advertising alternatives to Y2K risks were totally obliterated by the sky is falling mantra. > i still think a series of ads, with one harried exec with a network and > another with an as/400, comparing budgets, down time, etc would get > these peoples attention. companies are switching to networks because > they have been lead to believe it's cheaper and easier. IBM corporate would never approve AS/400 Division doing advertisements that make sense. Al Macintyre ©¿© http://www.cen-elec.com MIS Manager Programmer & Computer Janitor +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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