Re: Denial of Service, Good for AS/400? -- MIDRANGE-L

BOB,
        I think they were prepare it just hard to fight something that you
cannot see...specially if its coming from multiple places (from what Zdnet
say at least 1000+ pc s attacked at the same time...its intimidating to
think that you have 1000+ hackers doing this from all over the world
conducting this attacks simultaneously.....

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Crothers" <bob@cstoneindy.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: Denial of Service, Good for AS/400?


> Chuck,
>
> Of course, I don't know all of the facts either.  Only what the media has
> said.
>
> The hard part of the attack is that it wasn't just from one place.  I
heard
> it was from many (the number 50+ come to mind, but I could be daydreaming)
> sources.
>
> 3.5 hours might be a long time.  I do not know.  But I do know it was not
> just Yahoo.  According to Computer World
> (http://www.computerworld.com/home/print.nsf/CWFlash/000210E822 ), eBay,
> ZDNet, Buy.com, and eTrade have also been hit.
>
> I also know that Computer world has been VERY slow today...are they
getting
> Dos'ed?  Or is it just everybody looking for articles?  Is there a
> difference?  In either case, they have been unavailable much of the day.
>
> And of course, it is quite possible that these places where "less than
fully
> prepared" <g>
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On
> Behalf Of Chuck Lewis
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:59 AM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Denial of Service, Good for AS/400?
>
> Bob,
>
> Curious as to if it IS hard to prevent (NO offense intended) because I
have
> heard
> several folks from security companies saying that there was NO WAY Yahoo
> should
> have been down for 3 1/2 hours or whatever it was and that those folks
that
> had
> gotten hit by the DoS were asking for it because they had spent all of
their
> time
> on everything BUT good security for things like this. These folks either
> didn't
> elaborate or what they said wasn't repeated so I wasn't sure on this (?)
>
> Thanks !
>
> Chuck
>
> Bob Crothers wrote:
>
> > Without a doubt.
> >
> > The insidious thing about a DOS attack is that the hacker is doing
exactly
> > what the site wants. generating traffic.  What makes it bad is that the
> > hacker is generating way more traffic (and useless traffic) then the
site
> > can handle.  Makes it very hard to prevent.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On
> > Behalf Of Pike4@ix.netcom.com
> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 8:52 AM
> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Denial of Service, Good for AS/400?
> >
> > During the recent outrages at Yahoo and the others, by hackers who as I
> > understand it, overload the web servers, with excessive email, I was
> > wondering if this could happen to an AS/400 web server?
> >
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