I hate to say this, and I don't want to generalize, but my time spent in a very large MIS shop led me to the conclusion that if you want something done right, you do it with in-house programming staff. If you want to slap it in and not care what kind of mess is left behind, go ahead and use consultants. If you need technical expertise you don't currently have in-house, hire a consultant as a technical resource and train an in-house person to maintain and support the application (and preferably develop it, too!). The in-house staff needs to live with the results, but consultants often don't. Success is viewed as did they get it in and does it work, end of review. And remember... EVERYTHING needs maintenance... this is not a put it in and forget it kind of business we are in (unless of course you are on an AS/400 <g>). With all that said I know there are certainly very good consultants out there who care very much about the quality of their work and what they leave behind. There must be, because when I go out on my own some day I know that I won't be the ONLY one out there who feels that way!! It's just that I haven't run across very many... yet. But this brings me to a real pet peeve of mine: RANT(*ON) The people who budget for hiring need to learn that MIS is where it's at. This is not a fad we are dealing with here, it is the future. Stop trying to avoid head count and start trying to build a good solid staff of MIS personnel to allow you to grow without quite so much pain. And you KNOW the pain I'm talking about! My experience, again, tells me that trying to minimize the headcount of an MIS department is the worst way to go about getting good results. In the long run you will only double the work for an already beleaguered staff. The bottom line is nobody cares more than the people who have to live with it. RANT(*OFF) Running for cover because I know there must be tons of consultants on this list, Roger Boucher Standard Pacific Corp. email@example.com 714-668-4326 -----Original Message----- From: JGracetri@aol.com [mailto:JGracetri@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 6:59 AM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: Programmers VS Consultants HOW DOES A CONSULTANT MAKE MONEY? ANSWER. BILLING YOU FOR HOURS WORKED. *NOTE. UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMEONE TO OVERSEE THE CONSULTANT. YOU WILL GET A SHORT TERM SOLUTION(I.E. A PRGRAM OR SYSTEM THAT WILL REQUIRE THE CONSULTANT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SO THE PROGRAM OR SYTEM IS DESIGNED TO BE OUTDATED FROM DAY OF IMPLEMENTATION). +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: firstname.lastname@example.org +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: email@example.com +---
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