• Subject: Re: David Gibbs awarded Common Good Pin..
  • From: Chuck Lewis <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:34:18 +0100

OK, I understand the comments about IBM sponsorship POSSIBLY clouding the
integrity of this FANTASTIC and hallowed list although I'm SURE David could
withstand ANY onslaught by Big Blue ;-), so how 'bout "anonymous" contributions 
by
everyone and an AS/400 under the tree this December for David :-) ? Is David tax
deductible or can we set up a trust or something <BG> ?

Jerome Draper wrote:

> David has provided a new dimension to our community.  He is providing what
> COMMON, THE400GROUP, NEWS/400, MIDRANGE COMPUTING, MIDRANGE SYSTEMS, etc.
> do yet without the advertising and sponsorship.  It has proved an
> invaluable service and yes, David, deserves the credit as the back room
> Wizard in the Wizard of Oz.  David is not one to spend his time strutting
> for credit and it's nice to see him get recognized.
>
> Yeah David!
>
> Not least, however, (and I think David knows this) the list is valuable
> because of the participation from you who are reading this and other posts.
>  This ad hoc "membership" provides incredible insights into solutions for
> real problems.  This is the revolution we live in.  Its free, its
> available, it happening, and you are part of it.  And if you want to look
> back into the archives the are available too.  This is a living thing here
> and it is made possible by wizards.
>
> I think sponsorship by IBM or anybody would junk this list up completely.
> Look what has happened elsewhere.  I would be very suspect of sponsorship.
> My world is cluttered with enough stuff like that.
>
> Could be akin to killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
>
> Jerry
>
> At 03:06 PM 10/11/1999 +0200, you wrote:
> >I am delighted that David has received this overdue recognition for his
> >outstanding services to the midrange community. In fact he's probably done
> >more than anyone to make that word "community" a reality, and I'd like to
> >add my own congratulations to the chorus. However, IBM sponsorship would
> >invalidate the last 2 paragraphs of the monthly guidelines.
> >
> >There is an old saying: "Who pays the piper calls the tune". For me its
> >complete independence is a key feature of midrange-l. How do you think our
> >perception of it would be altered once it had IBM dollars behind it? I don't
> >want it to become just an organ for IBM.
> >
> >Dave Kahn
> >Johnson & Johnson International (Ethicon) France
> >Phone : +33 1 55 00 3180
> >Email :  dkahn1@jnjfr.jnj.com (work)
> >          dkahn@cix.co.uk      (home)
> >
> >
> >-----Message d'origine-----
> >De: Colin Williams [mailto:Williamsc@technocrats.co.uk]
> >Date: 11 October 1999 10:22
> >: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> >Objet: RE: David Gibbs awarded Common Good Pin..
> >
> >
> >I agree, IBM should definitely be sponsoring some part of this.
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>
> Jerry Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since 1976
> Specializing in connecting PC's, Windows, MAC's, and LAN's to the AS/400
> Representing Synapse, Apple, IBM, UDS, Nlynx, MI, Perle, Netsoft, etc.
> (415) 457-3431; (415) 258-1658fax; jdraper@wco.com
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