• Subject: Re: USRCLS(*USER) = *ALLOBJ....???
  • From: John Earl <johnearl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:36:52 -0800
  • Organization: PowerTech Toolworks & The 400 School

Rob Berendt wrote:
> 
> While I think that running at less than level 30 is ridiculous I'd like to 
>bring
> up a point.  The way most people implement security, they might as well be 
>running at level 20.

Hear Hear!

> 
> Typical scenario:
> Several libraries are owned by a group profile, let's use SSA for an example.
> All the users have SSA as their group profile, (unless they are using the 
>other
> package on the system to do their accounting).
> Therefore all of the users, (at least the SSA users) have *ALL access to all 
>of
> the files owned by SSA.
> Security officer says I'm secure.  I only allow them to access via menus.
> Some user then downloads the file using Client Access.
> Another user uses ftp from their PC to get to the data.
> Another user, using NT and Client Access, clicks on start, run, and then 
>types in  RMTCMD DLTF library/ECLL01
>         Test this with rmtcmd sndmsg 'test' rob
> Another user ...
> 
> There are work arounds to limit this.  Such as exit point programming.  
>Another method
> is to change all of the green screen programs to adopt the authority of SSA 
>and change
> the users to some other group profile.  I've known companies who do this.  I 
>don't know
> what they do for the limited grey screen programs they use.

Rob,

The scenario you lay out is the entire reason for our
software product's existance.  Folks who think that just
being at level 30 (or higher) security makes them secure are
ususally due for a rude awakeing when one of their users
discovers how to make ODBC work with WXCEL.

jte


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