Re: IBM pushing Java -- MIDRANGE-L

My comment was meant in a different vain then how it was perceived.

Let me try this again:
The most significant similarity between Java & JavaScript is the
spelling of the 1st 4 chars of their names.

Perhaps alittle history is in order.  JavaScript is so named as a result
of the marketing machine over @ Netscape.  Unless your going to tell
me that Netscape had planned to call their scripting language JavaScript
even back in the early days when Java was code named Oak.  Or perhaps 
Netscape was thinking about calling it OakScript back then....
The naming was chosen as a way for Netscape to be recognized by even
the most casual observer as being on the Java bandwagon.

In reference to http://www.jsr.communitech.net/difference.htm
Firstly, the document was last updated 8/15/98.  In that time
period, Java has undergone several minor changes and 1 major release
with Java 1.2 (AKA Java 2 thanks to Sun's marketing folks).
While maybe not as significant, JavaScript hasn't stayed the same either!

The major differences are a result of Java being a strongly typed and
object-oriented 
programming language, NOT an object based scripting language, as JavaScript
is.
That's a MAJOR difference.  OOD/OOP are a world away from any scripting
language.

"but there are more similarities.  "
But it's not a question of creating a chart and counting the differences
and 
similarities.  It's the significance of the similarities and differences
that matter, 
not simply the number of each.  

One more time: <BG>
IMHO, the most significant similarity between Java and JavaScript can be
found
in the 1st 4 characters of each.

Dave


----------
> From: Stone, Brad V (PP) <bvstone@ppress-tc.com>
> To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: IBM pushing Java
> Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 5:11 PM
> 
> I would say that that's not the only thing.
> 
> http://www.jsr.communitech.net/difference.htm
> 
> Sure this page lists mainly differences, but there are more similarities.
 
> 
> I thought only Jesse Ventura made such "definate" statements. ;)  He must
> have flunked a lot of his "True/False" tests when the words "never" and
> "all" showed up a lot.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Prowak [mailto:prowakd@emi.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 2:07 PM
> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Re: IBM pushing Java
> > 
> > 
> > The one thing that Java and JavaScript have in common are the
> > 1st 4 letters of their names.  
> > 
> > > I've played with JavaScript (which I'm guessing is similar to Java) 
> > ----------
> > > From: Stone, Brad V (PP) <bvstone@ppress-tc.com>
> > > To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> > > Subject: RE: IBM pushing Java
> > > Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 1:50 PM
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeff Crosby [mailto:jlcrosby@fwi.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 12:01 PM
> > > > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > > > Subject: Re: IBM pushing Java
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Colin Williams wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > I here what your saying, but I've worked at sites before 
> > > > where they are
> > > > > so busy fighting fires, that updating of the documentation 
> > > > falls by the
> > > > > wayside!!
> > > > 
> > > > And the other side of that is the assumption that just because
> > > > documentation exists, that it will actually be read.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > And one step further, that the documentation acutally means 
> > something or
> > is
> > > residual garbage comments from a previous version.
> > > 
> > > If java is so "good" that would mean that it's 
> > "self-documenting".  I've
> > > played with JavaScript (which I'm guessing is similar to 
> > Java) and I have
> > to
> > > admit it is fun and "self-documenting".  I was able to 
> > "guess" attributes
> > > (ie this.name, this.value, etc) after getting the basic jist of the
> > > language.
> > > 
> > > Even RPG is, to a point.  There are some commenting habits 
> > that drive me
> > up
> > > a wall and are deleted right away... ie
> > > 
> > > C*   If the customer number = 99999 then add one to the counter
> > > C                 if              (CustNo = 99999)
> > > C                 eval            Counter = (Counter + 1)
> > > C                 endif
> > > 
> > > If you can't read the code (I would wager than at least 85% 
> > of all code
> > is
> > > "readable" to a point), then you probably shouldn't be programming.
> > > +---
> > > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List!
> > > | To submit a new message, send your mail to 
> > MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com.
> > > | To subscribe to this list send email to 
> > MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com.
> > > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to
> > MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.
> > > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator:
> > david@midrange.com
> > > +---
> > > 
> > +---
> > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List!
> > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com.
> > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com.
> > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to 
> > MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.
> > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: 
> > david@midrange.com
> > +---
> > 
> +---
> | This is the Midrange System Mailing List!
> | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com.
> | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com.
> | To unsubscribe from this list send email to
MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.
> | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator:
david@midrange.com
> +---
> 
+---
| This is the Midrange System Mailing List!
| To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com.
| To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com.
| To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com.
| Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com
+---