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Hello Booth, Excellent choice of words! Brittle fits the bill perfectly. This is a good reason to consider moving to RPG IV. Local scoping of data, prototyping, and functions all contribute to robust applications in a manner not achievable with global variables, indicators, and branch points. Object-orientation is the next step. Java (and other languages) provide an environment conducive to OO but as others have mentioned it still has a way to go from a business perspective. The big advantage Java has is focus. Many companies are trying to improve it and provide business oriented beans. Many programmers have adopted it as a better C++ ('cause they don't have to learn a new syntax). These two facts will contribute to the success of Java. >From a /400 perspective current programmers need to consider learning OO >design -- the language is easy but if you are one of the many programmers who has contributed to the brittleness of existing applications then you need to learn new design skills before new language skills. Monolithic Java is possible and helps no-one. I realise that almost all of the OO philosophy can be implemented in any programming language but it's easier in an environment designed for it. Regards, Simon Coulter. «»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«» «» FlyByNight Software AS/400 Technical Specialists «» «» Eclipse the competition - run your business on an IBM AS/400. «» «» «» «» Phone: +61 3 9419 0175 Mobile: +61 0411 091 400 «» «» Fax: +61 3 9419 0175 mailto: shc@flybynight.com.au «» «» «» «» Windoze should not be open at Warp speed. «» «»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«» //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.50 b48 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 99 12:06:54 -0500 > From: boothm@ibm.net > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > Reply-To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > Subject: Re: IBM pushing Java > > I have a question along these lines: I refer to much of the old code that I >see as being brittle. I don't know exactly why I started using that term but it does seem appropriate. Touch something, and something breaks somewhere else. change a line of code and suddenly some whole section starts behaving differently. > > Have others noticed this? Does this word make sense to others, or am I >speaking badly? It is important to me because I feel we must constantly fight against this brittleness or suddenly we have applications that are no longer useful or repairable. Its usually at this point that I hear the "We need some PCs to do this" speech. > > > In <199903200957_MC2-6EB2-7239@compuserve.com>, on 03/20/99 > at 09:56 AM, John Carr <74711.77@compuserve.com> said: > > > >BTW, With that management attitude, How come you still aren't useing > >RPGII ? And I bet they are the same Management who complain about > >their applications are getting older. > > >John Carr > >EdgeTech > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > boothm@ibm.net > Booth Martin > ----------------------------------------------------------- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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