I just returned from Linda Knapp's IP routing session at COMMON, her
sample network was just this: VPN all your devices via your own IP
addressing. Bridge and route your token ring and ethernet LANs
internally, then use one or more routers to your ISP for Internet
traffic. You cannot control the ISPs throughput or reliability so don't
put your business in there hands, use them as a back-up plan and
consider 56k dial-up connections. Slow is much better than DEAD.
Senior Programmer/System Analyst
AS/400 Professional Network Administrator/MSE
Specialist - Client Access/400
Chouinard & Myhre, Inc.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lurton Keel [SMTP:Lurton.Keel@SERX.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 6:37 AM
> To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: Connecting satellite locations via the Internet
> To start with, I don't think you and I are talking about the same
> thing. I
> am talking about a frame relay network where we have 75 remote nodes
> connected and 2 T-1 out of the frame cloud to our LAN here.
> The cost is less than $600 per month for a fully monitored remote 56kb
> including leasing the router and modems . The T-1's on this end are
> $285/month (we are right beside the POP). The monitoring on this end
> about $500/month. We have a 32k PVC guaranteed on the 56k and we can
> that up to more within 72 hours.
> I agree that you can get an ISP connection for $19.95 per month but we
> talking about a routed connection with 20+ devices behind the router
> and not
> having any technical people at the stores to do anything. Our backup
> has to
> be automatic.
> My point about the IP addresses was that we control TCP/IP and we
> don't have
> to fiddle with a firewall at all. With a VPN you had better have a
> I agree that VPN's are a security exposure and I think a private frame
> network is more secure.
> I don't understand the comment about the 20 hops. That is an Internet
> problem not a frame problem. If one of our California sites does a
> to the AS/400 they will see 3 hops (or 4 if they are a spoke) maximum.
> Compare that to a VPN. The hops they see are 1-to their router, 2-to
> router, 3-to AS/400.
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 3:34 AM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Connecting satellite locations via
> Not to refute your decision, just tossing in my 2
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