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To start with, I don't think you and I are talking about the same thing. I am talking about a frame relay network where we have 75 remote nodes connected and 2 T-1 out of the frame cloud to our LAN here. The cost is less than $600 per month for a fully monitored remote 56kb node including leasing the router and modems . The T-1's on this end are $285/month (we are right beside the POP). The monitoring on this end is about $500/month. We have a 32k PVC guaranteed on the 56k and we can turn that up to more within 72 hours. I agree that you can get an ISP connection for $19.95 per month but we are talking about a routed connection with 20+ devices behind the router and not having any technical people at the stores to do anything. Our backup has to be automatic. My point about the IP addresses was that we control TCP/IP and we don't have to fiddle with a firewall at all. With a VPN you had better have a firewall. I agree that VPN's are a security exposure and I think a private frame network is more secure. I don't understand the comment about the 20 hops. That is an Internet problem not a frame problem. If one of our California sites does a TRACERT to the AS/400 they will see 3 hops (or 4 if they are a spoke) maximum. Compare that to a VPN. The hops they see are 1-to their router, 2-to our router, 3-to AS/400. -----Original Message----- From: email@james-w-kilgore.com [mailto:email@james-w-kilgore.com] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 3:34 AM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: Connecting satellite locations via the Internet Lurton, Not to refute your decision, just tossing in my 2 cents.... +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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